X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=BpPjPrf5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=+yma2OYoFj4gcfy36SLUsQ==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=Jdjhy38mL1oA:10 a=iNnjjJElTwQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Wr6o8-78iUd7PCAKETEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=Ew2E2A-JSTLzCXPT_086:22 From: "Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net" Received: from sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.189.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13422858 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 10:20:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.189.146; envelope-from=finn.lassen@verizon.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1579965619; bh=hMU6fTg5pEF9RHTdSrr5Nyrc3rTpJ7ys183HshY+zrM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=fGA15PpsUHgNAr2+Vlgd+fmzxzZ0ke5R8j2srdt4KLeIWMZPmhcV33r6zy21IYtKG/gaEjvHLQkFolyTD2l/g9XQY/WN6Ym2BKKxnYJYQZZA1nk20t0YXTHKXJJaOZEn0R1oodrMR6XzZwaWzGHRRJPQKGzMId3JbspSlXA1RoSXRcfU44i7pSR5iDF0ulsXsg4u+vtxu/q92M0MkggsS9NyfY5/95CdvEqO/l8D5gbg0BbOSKHewWEayz1p3YIpdfW9ZxKEXhdhtHZo2eGPaiyX1vSHau4NbJF9eJb65hzWCUZIqKsC3dGwqdqMbVQXPKTAsU5tZJa41ooAOTgefQ== X-YMail-OSG: NQbDVdwVM1lfZP2M3m0mJ7N.u3RK8NTsuFMQ1GqRPc_2KY15BcuSU6JVWquffca KRevtu.DiCeVR58la9ey9X2VK8LGRbCUg_RmcQbSw9MNtBfTAWq9Sn3hejh_9Y8IeId3tEQFbULZ Rt.6ZCqEQRQRZq6tjt4j7am3yDv0sNoFxQIkvOluOwjJYmHuLkgxk1FphEFl5ML5BqsXk9MpuuVD j63tRtDkoiTW3xNfBbxuGD6JEKJk405xKIQyJaLfaDx5IIU_GkbRoHXs2OVApIo5emyOpkIAkZ78 bEvHlXiW2lrYjtx_Af7Pv0ZF5WY9Sh4zoObWa7DKaUX0N137t78Mor1JnSJ36bqwhFijzifBApqZ I.9iGnDPp.LyHbVqdHVR42YwqFTG7ZJ7EDPKMrEJUpsfnrsjvZLvHxLzFOg8uOT7vr4CnEgedFZc QkqkcQdfKfTdpCSvcvtFBs1cWpyrxLGn9CCp1hqmjG8OsKvG0a7xkDdMFBs33Kz.1sEY6tAephXt EBxkm_EHreZqlyYqel4248BCxV5mVTsL3JCV2kt4v5HaY3gi9p_IaK7TE7sih2gtHDEEqqEf_Py0 Gd5gRdUGPwpfOECwqsEKUcZ.l_BIZWapiJHjaeFPBOhCigoC.xbLGYsbfRjREL1eJFEigc1nWDuI 2NDLgejdJHBHF14dTbksZ_cFTgEyUxwnKtxlG8.970lQtuNNNSKPvQEyZISRzC8RFpSdRz4Wsd.8 j4sGt1gt1UZYIUrcqAyKlAPoICPC4JqUeK9m8SkhbfPQT.02wUb_CmGLktqsOqQS856ubKCdZt3C 3Zz4ZE5eVKusvKWWAP6SURpR4axiqMCkThkXzxNSL_NjzVHzMlUHvAMCGXihn5Jums8Iv5MooOOa iPKo0sCqVRAi1yBA0UWG18MuxUsCI7V6jhylm9vEcwqC_MXqwtI13lX2unoQh3Djs8vpsE1ut_wV CT9N847_VSfCjizmPt_Y9J9V_slzL57kK7LTj35tLPNzaaSnX9DtLPXaey3lSp4MncHKU5QZaREV Rlp9lBgqX0WjF.JOruI.Ze9w37dE8Fo3N30BnIP8mwk3jc4HluTC89mUiEpcNL155.9tc4NPRSbq 1gJzqcAKJoLAxrUdm.BugPrguMJKIAo23BKkkAG_OZcn1mHWcRouBZC.Stio1Tg7fc4YNTYylSlC q6B_V6tFqVaY98Syzlkpj1NVLnneZc3WVRdep4l8HSypLat41tjkl2yaFEF9EV9uLytKS_2O.wdJ syFF0zugohuuUBs_vFYPW5pUImtIAezdAJ3.dxSiJCGeUOw2nUBfARYJSTlJRay6eVYJmWS3RLhV xZLeH1_BoCMmxOx0qwcM1M7PN4iOOYGizUDeX6U_LsypbjIyJvk9gD5IlrtQeH21PPkOQLwTwjvC .2CC_ZQWkvAPa Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic314.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 15:20:19 +0000 Received: by smtp430.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 361323d5d7e98836e64872b2266114d4; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 15:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: My EMI journey continues. To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <5b2d39c2-5a85-688a-7bd0-7c9440d506c8@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 10:20:11 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.15116 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/1.8.0_181) Content-Length: 2749 "So the processor A stumble on radio TX is solved by the 100nF cap decoupling the MAP output." But why??? Those MAP sensors are inside the metal box on the EC circuit board. How would EMI possibly get in there? Finn On 1/25/2020 7:05 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > Hi people. > > An update on the EMI issue with the Glasair > > I woke up to the engine cut problem over 5000rpm. Obvious when I think about it now. > Its happens at staging. > When the secondaries switch on it dies, because there is no power to the secondary injectors. > I have some connectors in circuit so I could add Tracy’s injector failure switching. > The 14v feed to the secondary injectors had gone open. > Touching the connector made the symptom go away with full rpm/load available. > > So the processor A stumble on radio TX is solved by the 100nF cap decoupling the MAP output. > And the engine cut was another problem all together. I will remove the faulty utilux connector. > > Cheers > > Steve Izett > > > >> On 21 Jan 2020, at 12:44 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi Guys >> >> I got a few hours on the Glasair this morning. >> >> Last week after soldering 100nF caps across pin 1&2 of EC2, I couldn’t start the engine on either controller.???!!! >> >> I checked the EC2 today and found the Earth Stud on the case was a little loose, so I tightened it up. >> >> Engine then started fine and ran on both controllers. One small step for man….. >> On Radio tx, NO stumble on either controller! Another small step for man…. >> >> BUT on running up the engine ONE great big step backwards….. >> >> Slowly increasing the RPM yields a very consistent engine cutout at just over 5000 rpm on both controllers. >> At say 3000 and stabbing the throttle yields the same result. >> If I pull the throttle quickly when it cuts out, it sometimes would recover. Otherwise it stalled completely. >> >> I can help but feel the caps are the culprit. >> Didn't have time to pull the EC2 and test. >> I would like to remove 100nF and retest. >> Then I’m tempted to replace with 10nF and retest. >> >> OR I could just remove the caps and put some Ferrites on the leads going into the EC2. >> >> The RF getting into the ADHARS has, it appears been attenuated significantly by 2 ferrites on the cables entering the unit and the subsequent reduction in VS indicated on radio tx. >> >> Till next time….. >> >> Steve Izett >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >