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[115.166.42.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l14sm9738040pgt.42.2020.01.25.04.05.05 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2020 04:05:06 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] My EMI journey continues. Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 20:05:02 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0D00B96A-21AB-40D6-BA43-187AAA665DFF@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Hi people. An update on the EMI issue with the Glasair I woke up to the engine cut problem over 5000rpm. Obvious when I think = about it now. Its happens at staging. When the secondaries switch on it dies, because there is no power to the = secondary injectors. I have some connectors in circuit so I could add Tracy=E2=80=99s = injector failure switching. The 14v feed to the secondary injectors had gone open. Touching the connector made the symptom go away with full rpm/load = available. So the processor A stumble on radio TX is solved by the 100nF cap = decoupling the MAP output. And the engine cut was another problem all together. I will remove the = faulty utilux connector. Cheers Steve Izett > On 21 Jan 2020, at 12:44 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > Hi Guys >=20 > I got a few hours on the Glasair this morning. >=20 > Last week after soldering 100nF caps across pin 1&2 of EC2, I = couldn=E2=80=99t start the engine on either controller.???!!! >=20 > I checked the EC2 today and found the Earth Stud on the case was a = little loose, so I tightened it up. >=20 > Engine then started fine and ran on both controllers. One small step = for man=E2=80=A6.. > On Radio tx, NO stumble on either controller! Another small step for = man=E2=80=A6. >=20 > BUT on running up the engine ONE great big step backwards=E2=80=A6.. >=20 > Slowly increasing the RPM yields a very consistent engine cutout at = just over 5000 rpm on both controllers. > At say 3000 and stabbing the throttle yields the same result. > If I pull the throttle quickly when it cuts out, it sometimes would = recover. Otherwise it stalled completely. >=20 > I can help but feel the caps are the culprit. > Didn't have time to pull the EC2 and test. > I would like to remove 100nF and retest. > Then I=E2=80=99m tempted to replace with 10nF and retest. >=20 > OR I could just remove the caps and put some Ferrites on the leads = going into the EC2. >=20 > The RF getting into the ADHARS has, it appears been attenuated = significantly by 2 ferrites on the cables entering the unit and the = subsequent reduction in VS indicated on radio tx. >=20 > Till next time=E2=80=A6.. >=20 > Steve Izett >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html