X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=BpPjPrf5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=s7do9I3oYpzFMb2JXGrRmQ==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=Jdjhy38mL1oA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=ZNJSV3KkOa0ULpx_sPEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=XUZqWK100ttGoanR2v0A:9 a=jX7YNMTVCQ5yD-AC:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f179.google.com ([209.85.215.179] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13411798 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 00:19:22 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.179; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f179.google.com with SMTP id 4so2817327pgd.6 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:19:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=Kh0iVyfUUvdC75rRRsrwkgHczVy647KaXOwdm/FE+jM=; b=o0aWiUQX30KI52TfO6Fj0wBp6vqXMFuAyeiZYEpOtJjOmxj13I7ZHzPO3paRgL/3DN FSXRHpIThxMA0+IWh8L6wEQDXSC9OSTpql/HODKyAOa558A4MqgdQf2NtWID5t5iKy7x +8LIVHNlzydGfw1Bmrtp3Bg+YoOgTu+Vf+NQKvkwsYbIFoBbTCriNzT3a8R75IvhT1Dn gcgxv55USOzwh8htF1/30kSo0TgpOd2MOHFnPmgqNc08KYjgvrowdHVAZtHKGg1VXsds 4EoV0A8dOHTlcKJEt63z4T+D3M/rAuXR9AlsWOqb220PqT6IWKHgmtmnAYcFbeGsHSM2 rhhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=Kh0iVyfUUvdC75rRRsrwkgHczVy647KaXOwdm/FE+jM=; b=CPvxw29+w9zEZEKJFM8WLr2ZC1FyGIOeluS94LMuOKg30Fok2IwnRojzjQ3R7PpvSk kUYH49iZIujd/5H88J3/2i9b9uE3qRxvyfSUb2LZH1n6Jcogk/hlIZVeoNYO8YAyhKl2 ez8C8CvDDj0X6I1zp5PeabANCIHLh45aKnj4lF13XRwn8SBEGUxaHmZw1A8PWV3zfa1T rxUOk7lNg8u8O+RXrq8Mnb0Em1Vsa63SpJSl8K5j+3VJWtJ2JreQkM17s7nH512anzsl jnNAbbrFs8xJpxNaxL2L3PBu6gQxZYzqF8BaoyqUfmqW6hQy827TagtehECPM00lgbxo yosQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWu/lDHD11NqYLJh1m8mytRlRaUng31G3aqccIS7DTjDZdz+3V7 WHrSkXZnvLvL0kjaljfKczszJgoK X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw3426mxQ2JrtW1PebYVxmFodOFmRYq5QLUf93YWx3f3HgBA4FDIg/CZRrBHzkc/kd3YY6JJg== X-Received: by 2002:a65:644b:: with SMTP id s11mr9319646pgv.332.1579670346018; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:19:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.106] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z30sm42874668pff.131.2020.01.21.21.19.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:19:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: mufflers To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <86186cc9-afbb-6caa-abdf-ce5efd29b0cc@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 16:19:01 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D69D371E9BC55737F87D824C" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D69D371E9BC55737F87D824C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andrew,                    After talking to Chris this morning, I wonder if the "auger flight" up the straight through muffler would quieten it down to what Chris has in the one pictured.  Just trying to save work. Neil. On 1/22/2020 11:39 AM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au wrote: > Neil, > this is interesting information, might just make another exhaust, > mine is real simple, short & robust. (the milk tin is just a heat > shield). but I also used bigger & more hole area in the inner tube, > reports I get are that it is no louder than any other aircraft around > here just "different". above about 4000'agl had people say they never > even notice me fly over, but I guess this is due to placement of > tailpipe not pointing at the ground. > But If I can get quieter & "different" all the better. > Andrew > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:01 AM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com > > wrote: > > Mat, > >                   Spoke with Chris again, and he says that the > current > setup as per the photo was much quieter than the straight > through.  Said > that with his current muffler (pictured) no one could hear him > coming, > whereas with it as a straight through it was still the "rotary" > sound. > Interesting and confusing.   Neil. > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --------------D69D371E9BC55737F87D824C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Andrew,

                   After talking to Chris this morning, I wonder if the "auger flight" up the straight through muffler would quieten it down to what Chris has in the one pictured.  Just trying to save work.

Neil.

On 1/22/2020 11:39 AM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au wrote:
Neil,
this is interesting information, might just make another exhaust,
mine is real simple, short & robust. (the milk tin is just a heat shield). but I also used bigger & more hole area in the inner tube, reports I get are that it is no louder than any other aircraft around here just "different". above about 4000'agl had people say they never even notice me fly over, but I guess this is due to placement of tailpipe not pointing at the ground.
But If I can get quieter & "different" all the better.
Andrew





On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:01 AM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Mat,

                  Spoke with Chris again, and he says that the current
setup as per the photo was much quieter than the straight through.  Said
that with his current muffler (pictured) no one could hear him coming,
whereas with it as a straight through it was still the "rotary" sound. 
Interesting and confusing.   Neil.


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