X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=H+OlPNQi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=rNh5z51zqBKAkJEDufJaSw==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=MeAgGD-zjQ4A:10 a=ZPv60q_EFhsA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=tltSpL1zI2Ty9sSwlsQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=66kFVuZkz3FpO6Gh3oEA:9 a=diJVtO5mL_WEFV4k:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ITlmtVv9-oeQhCOY-yIA:9 a=7mV8q4C9rxJALhX4:18 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=VEiTNn8F7TgA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net" Received: from sonic313-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.185.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13193308 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:42:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.185.31; envelope-from=finn.lassen@verizon.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1574174544; bh=BjMvCbBBXgi8iXUgln4IUEd1Tla6TP4xMdjC0KJqMN4=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=WHr8ZsVddmflUzG1lUwrEL+saHWBKorrHpMpOYne9ZvJw5vILmSMvjtQi+tItttqdzUpjNYMN0GiDjiLqy/zCNCEM153iaGtYaLAXfSQ79VjvR1ky8Id63VsrPIauVqmhdj6fm/OFupsBhSzgtRLmXYuhKAWt8Hg3xOfxpd6V6TQ7eUS/FnIkU8SaBQAfyS8dLFsNsAPSuLmg2ObcTbhkpyo0EjxrPXXFY37qjYIyRDL0gcL++MUSoXdOhJX9vpL9rZx/4CJkCmuqQOIkRhTH9Nx+nT1pYgYQUwp2vL7y+SzUQPEhw/LeOjY6r+BUjD++vPRW3YKa4oR0AwxYNgC6A== X-YMail-OSG: I.E1qzwVM1kyugKZ0YnQHnf6PnK2HJTIplK6GfwdCvMfGaG7tr1LJjY4haUHEbz GM46WVkirc2prp8FmNrGBOtK1GmUXQtlb8B8LJeLIjcGf03lX07l6nP9qGNW_J7l4sAeBNJZlPXb bWAE3yw3KBL203O22FZE0mQ3KAICugF9Q_wie68gLGie_5B1VXZ6MDqIDQ_k8DFld4ByaxxwJXm5 lW_awq4oXzw5aSGN5q_9HPUyJoS1j2mGH8vf8QoaoJWHtvpOIIOMpsJV.OkLMEvfu5bFaPQWxV07 Ou.uo1Khv6.FAfY4FYpZE3cdfgESVkSG.1LleiMcxwBHlLw2LKFmOjzbXTNmkg8VkRf7I.Xavx5V FFd.x9_HBmtl4sgx1vRX3g7uTSeTkv62UbYS5mm4au58Sorb81ppdImbtVyxSywsUWKGeXUvVh5k qjTq5uhmJrumGxOtWbkK4EYjoMlae7p7cdgpIvlF6wRivcgZmA.h6VOT.Hx8JOa2IDgBoRTJLxHZ 1pVWfUrvCKi1wC8pzkIoTmbzuRf6E3CekL6evSHXQ17wfS5495RxiYJTgMdH4CvEdwXNCacFOa95 V3XngIeRwY.GyLj_MbKqCQcfn76Upu9UgSqC5hQxhILhP429kb9rT5d0gyWTpPrQ4i6Vhd1NZ8jQ 82KpLpyKmK6WYAAY3i1qpQUW_paqCtHJC2zGM9ylrto4ZOy6ga_rYk4Yb47nxNDNT6mDSX0YaTxR vMh9_A5OgbxJysubrjw.nqhhQWSwGinbGhnebnBxze3x.ZppqwRF51g8XdJXTzCocB.Js9JHEBAK 98CIrh775R18.UqlEC0P1ZGrZnylaNBpop8PrTALLJAiO56Rm1jQQwUKFlsjXAp25Z5baWH3NveF CBreSFQ5TG1JqhtPOrS7ATmkdtNdKSmO3lsVRsSKjo3_8XSHHYaERO1BSdhymEud4cjXkQJeCJdb lBfFpEfnEkcWJfM9w67fz3BQ5QwDLHrDamqafCf8PFmP_GpS9imsGX1_TYSD0G79VKrpctB6Nll0 9tgE1Jw2lZ6vhNSPijv86LPqd4HiOBhQyjKwFC6HV4rPyn57wLYiqOd__FUQwkCF6Nc9i6lbxoLP yR1PLUhsvpPZx04CRazZYUNasulZB8_J6VfO1jdgSDfwMhCMRrsSCai47Gux6UPmliJlFhq0Dyax 07BqSY7Cy2SUyXgv8UNAOzUCO8NJIdciyfvGE7HWmbuvxNPIfd3fLtxf4dd18jtz54WJKwN242Rn Uagjuc2DRQP7DgctcwZBbIUrqKCQGxliF.fKYjR4rNIkaHIMS8sN1UNaCw_lSCPgws7WscvEcZ_1 geHKvcJFATks_XLgco5UiHWyN3QWeNb_5z5gbw7ZrqHwQiGmgHANDwuDDk8hx.b8Vh9rYIPfc4c0 B.2bgXNdm Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:42:24 +0000 Received: by smtp427.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 13ddf565b051bd768eae9c6f6200d576; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mufflers To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <5048b1bc-051e-d6e4-9ede-1b79f9757f1d@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:42:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------83F12170404A058C1051D9EB" Content-Language: en-US X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.14728 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/1.8.0_181) Content-Length: 17544 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------83F12170404A058C1051D9EB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2C524649F751590E5528CC04" --------------2C524649F751590E5528CC04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Finally took a picture. Actually only the last half of the 3 foot pipe has holes. The "fish mouth" is not. It's just the pipe squeezed and welded shut. That skin seam is at the rear cockpit bulkhead in the RV-3B. I see the last few holes have stuff in them. Probably more innards from the muffler. Will have to take it off and clean it out. If I'm going to have to do the same on the RV-4, it's going to be a heck of a long pipe (heavy). Finn On 11/18/2019 8:27 PM, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com wrote: > Spintech was the quietest I used,but it clearly robbed me of LOTS of > power, so I took it off.  Flowmaster worked second best, but only for > a couple of hours until all the packing fell out.  Removed that one > too.  Running a long pipe to behind the seating area is acceptable.  > Thinking about trying multiple 1/8 holes like someone else described. > > Also tried a race muffler from Burns Stainless with little effect. > > Dave Leonard > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 1:20 PM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com > > wrote: > > Attn Todd Bartrim, > >                                        When in doubt check the > instruction book!!  I finally checked the archives to find that > Todd you > are way in front of me.  I am definitely going to put a turbo on my > renesis, but am still looking for a muffler. Depending on what Lynn > suggestes, but your experience with the spintech or your latest > version > is appreciated.  Do you have any tests with a decibel meter? My > exhaust > noise is just too loud, fine for me but passengers do not exactly > que up > for another ride. > > So design starts all over again, but I do have another engine to play > with to keep mine in the air while I experiment.    Here again > Todd you > have the electric water pump --- thoughts? > > Neil. > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --------------2C524649F751590E5528CC04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Finally took a picture. Actually only the last half of the 3 foot pipe has holes.
The "fish mouth" is not. It's just the pipe squeezed and welded shut.
That skin seam is at the rear cockpit bulkhead in the RV-3B.

I see the last few holes have stuff in them. Probably more innards from the muffler. Will have to take it off and clean it out.

If I'm going to have to do the same on the RV-4, it's going to be a heck of a long pipe (heavy).

Finn

On 11/18/2019 8:27 PM, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com wrote:
Spintech was the quietest I used,but it clearly robbed me of LOTS of power, so I took it off.  Flowmaster worked second best, but only for a couple of hours until all the packing fell out.  Removed that one too.  Running a long pipe to behind the seating area is acceptable.  Thinking about trying multiple 1/8 holes like someone else described.

Also tried a race muffler from Burns Stainless with little effect.

Dave Leonard

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 1:20 PM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Attn Todd Bartrim,

                                       When in doubt check the
instruction book!!  I finally checked the archives to find that Todd you
are way in front of me.  I am definitely going to put a turbo on my
renesis, but am still looking for a muffler. Depending on what Lynn
suggestes, but your experience with the spintech or your latest version
is appreciated.  Do you have any tests with a decibel meter?  My exhaust
noise is just too loud, fine for me but passengers do not exactly que up
for another ride.

So design starts all over again, but I do have another engine to play
with to keep mine in the air while I experiment.    Here again Todd you
have the electric water pump --- thoughts?

Neil.


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