Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 3079419 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:07:57 -0500 Received: from edward (clt78-020.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.20]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i2FD7skG020701 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:07:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002d01c40a8e$431526f0$2402a8c0@edward> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] It's Ed's fault :-) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:05:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C40A64.5A037580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C40A64.5A037580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:01 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] It's Ed's fault :-) Greetings, "Yee of little faith" here decided to believe Ed, and not install = bleed fittings in the top of my evap cores. Today's log follows. I = imagine the mechanical pump would have done the job in several = iterations of running, but I don't want to have to go through that every = time I drain and fill the system. Fortunately, I left the cores clecoed = to the mounting brackets for just such a reason. I'll be welding 1/8" = pieces to the top of one tank on each core, and threading it for 1/8 = NPT. If I can find a nice petcock locally, I'll use that, otherwise, = just a plug for now. 3-14-04 =20 Did a lot of fiddly things to get ready to fill and start the engine. = Unfortunately, when trying to fill the water, I couldn't. The EWP = wouldn't pump, because it wasn't primed. It can't get primed, because = there's no water in the evap cores. There's no water in the evap cores, = because I listened to Ed and didn't install fittings in the top to bleed = out the air :-) Installation of the bleed fittings is under way. There = was also a pinhole leak in one of the EWP flanges. I need to fire my = welder. It has now been "JB welded" within an inch of it's life. If it = leaks now, I'll just have to throw it away. Cheers, Rusty (Ed, you owe me a beer ) Gee, Rusty, If I had know you were really planning to use an EWP I = would have strongly recommend bleed fittings. Everyone knows those EWPs = can hardly pump sufficient flow to remove heat, much less air bubbles = {:>). (Just kidding of course) Actually, I've never encountered that problem (water pump wouldn't = prime) probably because my water pump is the lowest point in my cooling = system (Plugs Up). So basically if there is any coolant in the block at = all it will get pumped. But, show up at Sun & Fun with your RV-3 and I'll buy you two beers = {:>) Ed ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C40A64.5A037580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
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From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 = 11:01=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] It's Ed's = fault=20 :-)

Greetings,
 
"Yee of = little faith"=20 here decided to believe Ed, and not install bleed fittings in the top = of my=20 evap cores.  Today's log follows.  I imagine the mechanical = pump=20 would have done the job in several iterations of running, but I don't = want to=20 have to go through that every time I drain and fill the system. =20 Fortunately, I left the cores clecoed to the mounting brackets for = just such a=20 reason.  I'll be welding 1/8" pieces to the top of one tank on = each core,=20 and threading it for 1/8 NPT.  If I can find a nice petcock = locally, I'll=20 use that, otherwise, just a plug for now.
 

3-14-04

 

Did=20 a lot of fiddly things to get ready to fill and start the engine.  Unfortunately, when trying = to fill the=20 water, I couldn=92t. The EWP wouldn=92t pump, because  it wasn=92t primed.  It can=92t get primed, = because there=92s=20 no water in the evap cores. =20 There=92s no water in the evap cores, because I listened to Ed = and didn=92t=20 install fittings in the top to bleed out the air :-)  Installation of the bleed = fittings is=20 under way.  There was = also a=20 pinhole leak in one of the EWP flanges.  I need to fire my = welder.  It has now been =93JB = welded=94 within an=20 inch of it=92s life.  If = it leaks=20 now, I=92ll just have to throw it away.
 
 
Cheers,
Rusty (Ed, you = owe me a beer=20 <g>)
 
Gee, Rusty, If = I had know you=20 were really planning to use an EWP I would have strongly recommend = bleed=20 fittings.  Everyone knows those EWPs can hardly pump sufficient = flow to=20 remove heat, much less air bubbles {:>).  (Just kidding of=20 course)
 
Actually, I've = never=20 encountered that problem (water pump wouldn't prime) probably because = my water=20 pump is the lowest point in my cooling system (Plugs Up).  So = basically=20 if there is any coolant in the block at all it will get=20 pumped.
 
But, show up at = Sun & Fun=20 with your RV-3 and I'll buy you two beers = {:>)
 
Ed
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