Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 3078827 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:36:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 4200 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2004 02:36:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frontiernet.net) ([67.51.193.18]) (envelope-sender ) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (FrontierMTA 2.3.7b) with SMTP for ; 15 Mar 2004 02:36:55 -0000 Message-ID: <405516F1.5830642@frontiernet.net> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:37:37 -0600 From: Jim Sower X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Nothing ever goes Smoothly! (RV-thingies) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <... once Vne was set, it was set, and publicizing that you exceeded safe by WINNING air races would not be healthy for the longevity of a flight certificate. Please tell me that I have been clueless. ...> Not clueless at all. That's a valid point. But it's pretty easy to make a mod (like more carefully balancing your control surfaces) and applying for a new Airworthiness Certificate. If your DAR is a dick, fire him and go with the local FSDO. They're less likely to be real anal about stuff that you say is OK so long as you do the paperwork right. Ernest Christley wrote: > kevin lane wrote: > > when I had but three weeks on my -6a I was feeling my oats one day and saw a twin about 1000' below going my direction. I dove down beside it only to notice that I was doing about 240mph. like I said, I was feeling my oats that day and cranked off a huge loop. I won't ever repeat these stupid moves, I am much in touch with airspeed simply through stick feel now, but it does point out a lot of wiggle room in the 210 vne figure. > > Kevin Lane Portland, OR > > OK, there is what the plane will handle, and then there is what you can > sneak past the FAA. > > My point is that I had the understanding that a homebuilder could set > the Vne at whatever he felt, though the DAR might set ridiculous test > restrictions if he sees ridiculous numbers. However, once Vne was set, > it was set, and publicizing that you exceeded safe by WINNING air races > would not be healthy for the longevity of a flight certificate. Please > tell me that I have been clueless.