X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=No+TSIVJ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=m0AEC+RiiqKPtGNj2ediMQ==:117 a=VDc9k25A1DFYoLnUJwdGOg==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=K7ySfSCCDxUA:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=xPyZ54XvAAAA:8 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=rAUzr8fSc3br5MiRbIUA:9 a=eoaU6Id6pWgka0zL:21 a=eIoyvp8_N8qe0lxt:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=jH0ntSA_MsYCODZO:21 a=frU8X1S57zxHqpza:21 a=F9wAip9B3jfswE7y:21 a=GyA-uvUxXSCciAkwuKQO:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=LQCduUwlY3eUW_MavTj7:22 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" Received: from mail-vs1-f41.google.com ([209.85.217.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.10) with ESMTPS id 12083272 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:12:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.217.41; envelope-from=mattboiteau@gmail.com Received: by mail-vs1-f41.google.com with SMTP id v205so3815198vsc.3 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:12:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :user-agent; bh=VfVNv1XFQSFzbKNDL57rZS1UnVEk0owiXTLEb6aY+fw=; b=NTusV0EqEAXoy95+hITMewDyAeOpoSBa90pTfhnO3kGatvAsk6XMSi5WPXOilzk5Yu Gmw35Qv9fKsH4Xt2xFL/USIOEH2U0zTdKVuKGTGApXHywNb1xYpVg5wq0CR2VjbADDmW KgzJbiHz3sNc6CXZfy56zUcrP771xFXiegwKtOpp6mS+AxY8vKQva4fEfhje+sGWBz+p IJhtG7wxyHPN68MVjJNtaQxhS/scy1/tAHp3AJHWN8bkb1UAfD4kKXK1NrHCW6YPos2D 5UnezgCCsdBdoUC0Z7cXaUZq7qq/re+SLIblIovDnR2rvrkuSeqlXFSpeccpserFyZAx aCwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :in-reply-to:references:user-agent; bh=VfVNv1XFQSFzbKNDL57rZS1UnVEk0owiXTLEb6aY+fw=; b=JEDRuzy0Hk8OQC5panxTYJesSQ5b7+R2W3nMbTZLETq6fcczZsQm9gvruYfNhc8mLT abqWjOq3JbeB6WEwiThiaxYv/EMIsYHEfxa0tMzFf89ObQSzj5KxH1/5352cTrJrLnnA Z3BCVh9qsODM43EhFuyygRity0i6t7IQdii/z68e+a0ZfyQaDzR3lGJ514wFeFJ+ojN2 XG+R+AqiiJfJjuJYXKhOArPovGGnAjYNHYHooYb1Dxb1xtWtQLRrJfft98ttw1bsqa6i kFh5T8HF4vFPhKqN0F+88l9J7k5s0XgHXMbZPdtg7VF5jQRejHP5V5AQ3HRHrS1is9KS oy2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukelGAcqzRJrLwdOrojn1QfLhy5mS+hB5uc5Nyv4F4RnuyCFLfKE awyqXIF68tT3fuKsn7/LkCut8k52U1w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6alT4pVSC4aZYSz33Mhktu61ILsNNlCdnxR1sLBDJyoTEMukc5bPoe99eElKMqWOcnj3sq2g== X-Received: by 2002:a67:3d54:: with SMTP id k81mr1714263vsa.57.1546999912771; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:11:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.151] ([71.214.222.64]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l197sm17384198vke.18.2019.01.08.18.11.51 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:11:51 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_37738349.715727448746" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:12:06 -0500 Message-ID: <303347da-7663-4b4b-80a2-4b18f8afe866@getmailbird.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 3D printing - Oil inlet To: "Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.20.0 X-Mailbird-ID: 303347da-7663-4b4b-80a2-4b18f8afe866@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_37738349.715727448746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fusion 360. It's free for a year, and when you go to renew, all you pick is= "I'm a hobbyist" option, and it keeps on being free. It's the baby version of Autocad, but same company and still powerful enoug= h. No to scanner. I read you can hack an XBOX live camera and turn it into a 3= d scanner, haven't had time or brain space yet to look into it. - Matt Boiteau On 2019-01-08 3:05:00 PM, Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net wrote: Matt, What was that free Cad program you used for 3D printing? And do you have a = scanner? Marc =C2=A0 From: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 11:01 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3D printing - Oil inlet =C2=A0 Another cool thing I printed, was a heat floor louver. The heater core is i= nside the tunnel, has some computer fans that will duct it to the floor.=C2= =A0The girlfriend cranks the heat even in the summer.=C2=A0Now she can have= heat, while I=C2=A0enjoy the nice fresh outside cold air. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEHqOZHvf1io [https://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3DEHqOZHvf1io] =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Matt Boiteau On 1/6/2019 11:56:40 PM, Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com [mailto:mattboi= teau@gmail.com] wrote: Neil, I do agree that I'm doing a lot more then I should just to get the pl= ane flying. But I really enjoy working on the plane and trying new things. = I'm at the point where I need to stick to a plan and get the plane finshed = / flying. My goal is April to be flying. Bobby, I was struggling trying to find some good math and results for the i= nlet size. I ended up going with 20% of the core face. I do have one printe= d at 30% if I need to switch it up. Would only take a few hours to glass no= w that everything is setup and in the autocad system. Charlie, try out Fusion 360 by autocad. It's free, and actually not to hard= to use. I research on YouTube a lot to figure out how to do things. I'd li= ke to do some college night courses on it down the road. I have not done an= y 'tuf' tests or yarn. Just before xmas, I was looking at Harbour Freight i= f they have any good leaf blowers on sale. There are some computer wind tun= nel programs to try out, but my brain is already overloaded right now. When= I sketched out the truppet shape, I used the=C2=A0Kuchemann and Weber theo= ries to come up with the length and curves. I'll actually try a=C2=A0vacuum= =C2=A0cleaner and some=C2=A0yarn and see how it looks for the two corners n= ext time it's off. Andrew, I'm not flying yet but I hope my inlets get a good prop blast how I= have them. Left is Oil, Right is intake, and bottom is coolant. =C2=A0 *I wish we could move this whole email thing to a web fourm like http://www= .homebuiltairplanes.com [http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com] Attaching tiny pictures is driving me crazy. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Matt Boiteau On 1/6/2019 5:54:32 PM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au [mailto:andrew= @martinag.com.au] wrote: Matt. What Neil, Bobby & Charlie said.=C2=A0 I am making all the mistakes, = I have same oil cooler and now repositioning to face it onto airflow, I fin= d low speed, high power & summer heat is challenging, but need to get throu= gh this to get to cruise height & power, so design for worst airflow your p= lane will see, admittedly, my inlet is closer to prop hub and does not see = enough prop blast for real good ground testing at very high power. So all m= y high power tests have been flying circuits, some at very low level. disco= ncerting if a change that should improve cooling in theory has the opposite= effect. =C2=A0 Andrew =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -- Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ [http://www.flyrotary.com/] Archive = and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html [http= ://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html] ------=_NextPart_37738349.715727448746 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fusion 360. It's free for a year, a= nd when you go to renew, all you pick is "I'm a hobbyist" option, and it ke= eps on being free.
It's the baby version of Autocad, but same company an= d still powerful enough.

No to scanner. I read you can h= ack an XBOX live camera and turn it into a 3d scanner, haven't had time or = brain space yet to look into it.

= - Matt Boiteau

On 2= 019-01-08 3:05:00 PM, Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net <flyrotary@lancair= online.net> wrote:

Matt,

W= hat was that free Cad program you used for 3D printing? And do you have a s= canner?

Marc

=  

From: Rotary motors in aircra= ft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 06,= 2019 11:01 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancai= ronline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3D printing - Oil inlet<= o:p>

 

Another cool thing I printed, was a heat floor louv= er. The heater core is inside the tunnel, has some computer fans that will = duct it to the floor. The girlfriend cranks the heat even in the summe= r. Now she can have heat, while I enjoy the nice fresh outside co= ld air.

 

 

- Matt Boiteau

On 1/6/2019 11:56:40 PM, Matt Bo= iteau mattboiteau@gmail.com &l= t;flyrotary@lancaironline.ne= t> wrote:

Neil, I do agree that I'm doing a = lot more then I should just to get the plane flying. But I really enjoy wor= king on the plane and trying new things. I'm at the point where I need to s= tick to a plan and get the plane finshed / flying. My goal is April to be f= lying.


= Bobby, I was struggling trying to find some good math and results for the i= nlet size. I ended up going with 20% of the core face. I do have one printe= d at 30% if I need to switch it up. Would only take a few hours to glass no= w that everything is setup and in the autocad system.

Charlie, try o= ut Fusion 360 by autocad. It's free, and actually not to hard to use. I res= earch on YouTube a lot to figure out how to do things. I'd like to do some = college night courses on it down the road. I have not done any 'tuf' tests = or yarn. Just before xmas, I was looking at Harbour Freight if they have an= y good leaf blowers on sale. There are some computer wind tunnel programs t= o try out, but my brain is already overloaded right now. When I sketched ou= t the truppet shape, I used the Kuchemann and Weber theories to come u= p with the length and curves. I'll actually try a vacuum cleaner = and some yarn and see how it looks for the two corners next time it's = off.

Andrew, I'm not flying yet but I hope my inlets get a good prop= blast how I have them. Left is Oil, Right is intake, and bottom is coolant= .

 

*= I wish we could move this whole email thing to a web fourm like http://www.homebuiltairplanes.comAttaching tiny pictures is driving me crazy.

 

=

 

- Matt Boiteau

= On 1/6/2019 5:54:32 PM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Matt. What Neil, Bobby &am= p; Charlie said.  I am making all the mistakes, I have same oil cooler= and now repositioning to face it onto airflow, I find low speed, high powe= r & summer heat is challenging, but need to get through this to get to = cruise height & power, so design for worst airflow your plane will see,= admittedly, my inlet is closer to prop hub and does not see enough prop bl= ast for real good ground testing at very high power. So all my high power t= ests have been flying circuits, some at very low level. disconcerting if a = change that should improve cooling in theory has the opposite effect.<= /o:p>

=  

Andr= ew

 

 

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Reg= ards Andrew Martin Martin Ag

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