X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=No+TSIVJ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=UmkYa9AZFJEwcQacvEqPdQ==:117 a=a8X7JH4lJw878OzOw2zZAA==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=K7ySfSCCDxUA:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=xPyZ54XvAAAA:8 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=5xVgkGOeERSJYmxpoUoA:9 a=69I1w1ITp4Bwa2Cj:21 a=23XfK9mXqz4DTQqC:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=rAUzr8fSc3br5MiRbIUA:9 a=qVE6Bh8vflGIox3Y:21 a=LzPPkQNdxRueFyZl:21 a=NTmLquHqZ4bNDHPh:21 a=y3gxJGGnbrtUV2GOxcvc:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=LQCduUwlY3eUW_MavTj7:22 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" Received: from mail-io1-f45.google.com ([209.85.166.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.10) with ESMTPS id 12076045 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 00:00:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.166.45; envelope-from=mattboiteau@gmail.com Received: by mail-io1-f45.google.com with SMTP id l14so33930160ioj.5 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 21:00:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :user-agent; bh=kXbAV28OtX+zUL2mpu6ozTy78P7kCLD7mawz0CqYtDM=; b=H8ZVM3LAl5dUYXzk5WU4XwUlOUZODpzM3ygSb3D5mxsLWcJ0KOQjfNRE2ug8dqJxys PL+ogywybbZFe4/V9oHJ7UM5IGHvPNj17OWiIg+k1++2LNEtXY+Sl6x1/ntu0itoVViW smRZW+adPPGq+muVZLKdIgrLKSkL4rtAF2PAo11sNTdMtF4ks8lF7r9kq5ODgYL299l4 YL6UAYe1MpvQyw7pX+sBqCz8b868LoaXJA105svGjaMMkYF/DnWWrvbt89ffdQCfKUuJ +9RxvL+kXtuvSYQFEEpDm1y5zMq0z0QXOpthzpA0vQyNRwdhDzAFqrgAYXa7A6iaehNr HmXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :in-reply-to:references:user-agent; bh=kXbAV28OtX+zUL2mpu6ozTy78P7kCLD7mawz0CqYtDM=; b=AGXiODqJMIleyqNt0xf587ulRHiRKz4zjvT/L/OGF8AhBgMWHjQ6/KE//mNqR7MCX2 kbg+bKKZtHpcMMws/vVPArH+gF9jSZsT4Ex7+gFq6ZFi8ga0kBxcKoEgIM5P68da0DM6 4JF8l+OOHrBRILz/7sKqX8Z33f3340dayaeLWd547p7SECkooc8Kn66XxJgwHyT7H2lV 7a8yHmphlKvRtETe08eOaX8k57iA6rexTtfofIx0PxzT124lAMz7TBChDiPYUsC+c0W+ VJlt57nwGqm1m6oYkLnnqoT735AAvwhrD/v+pQWJDWGQUlVcpaSr04/2T3qCRlLQY2mx 0W9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukc/F9W3v9nn6rlw7Ubvd7JZZmg11hixVv7qjZESKIm8kgm9Ib8T mHBlbraIWxw6jbdwXmwN34Fl+Y80 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5v6Z6ogfFYIZjWmByBGPK7ADM8alg9StOjwmrTkoFjzwz+7hx779CiB/avk7JLM+0ckoVHcg== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:878d:: with SMTP id f13mr17680043ion.239.1546837240930; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 21:00:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.122] (67-58-218-42.eastlink.ca. [67.58.218.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y13sm28040333ioa.56.2019.01.06.21.00.40 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Jan 2019 21:00:40 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_4157294.677426398596" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 00:00:41 -0500 Message-ID: <45c74078-f4d9-44d0-a601-1e2968e2fa4b@getmailbird.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 3D printing - Oil inlet To: "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.27.0 X-Mailbird-ID: 45c74078-f4d9-44d0-a601-1e2968e2fa4b@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_4157294.677426398596 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another cool thing I printed, was a heat floor louver. The heater core is i= nside the tunnel, has some computer fans that will duct it to the floor.=C2= =A0The girlfriend cranks the heat even in the summer.=C2=A0Now she can have= heat, while I=C2=A0enjoy the nice fresh outside cold air. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEHqOZHvf1io - Matt Boiteau On 1/6/2019 11:56:40 PM, Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com wrote: Neil, I do agree that I'm doing a lot more then I should just to get the pl= ane flying. But I really enjoy working on the plane and trying new things. = I'm at the point where I need to stick to a plan and get the plane finshed = / flying. My goal is April to be flying. Bobby, I was struggling trying to find some good math and results for the i= nlet size. I ended up going with 20% of the core face. I do have one printe= d at 30% if I need to switch it up. Would only take a few hours to glass no= w that everything is setup and in the autocad system. Charlie, try out Fusion 360 by autocad. It's free, and actually not to hard= to use. I research on YouTube a lot to figure out how to do things. I'd li= ke to do some college night courses on it down the road. I have not done an= y 'tuf' tests or yarn. Just before xmas, I was looking at Harbour Freight i= f they have any good leaf blowers on sale. There are some computer wind tun= nel programs to try out, but my brain is already overloaded right now. When= I sketched out the truppet shape, I used the=C2=A0Kuchemann and Weber theo= ries to come up with the length and curves. I'll actually try a=C2=A0vacuum= =C2=A0cleaner and some=C2=A0yarn and see how it looks for the two corners n= ext time it's off. Andrew, I'm not flying yet but I hope my inlets get a good prop blast how I= have them. Left is Oil, Right is intake, and bottom is coolant. *I wish we could move this whole email thing to a web fourm like http://www= .homebuiltairplanes.com Attaching tiny pictures is driving me crazy. - Matt Boiteau On 1/6/2019 5:54:32 PM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au wrote: Matt. What Neil, Bobby & Charlie said.=C2=A0 I am making all the mistakes, = I have same oil cooler and now repositioning to face it onto airflow, I fin= d low speed, high power & summer heat is challenging, but need to get throu= gh this to get to cruise height & power, so design for worst airflow your p= lane will see, admittedly, my inlet is closer to prop hub and does not see = enough prop blast for real good ground testing at very high power. So all m= y high power tests have been flying circuits, some at very low level. disco= ncerting if a change that should improve cooling in theory has the opposite= effect. Andrew -- Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lanca= ironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_4157294.677426398596 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another cool thing I printed, was a= heat floor louver. The heater core is inside the tunnel, has some computer= fans that will duct it to the floor. The girlfriend cranks the heat even in the summer. Now she= can have heat, while I enjoy the nice fresh outside cold air.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEHqOZHvf1io


- Matt Boiteau

On 1= /6/2019 11:56:40 PM, Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lanca= ironline.net> wrote:

=0A =0A = =0A = =0A =0A = =0A Neil, I do = agree that I'm doing a lot more then I should just to get the plane flying.= But I really enjoy working on the plane and trying new things. I'm at the = point where I need to stick to a plan and get the plane finshed / flying. M= y goal is April to be flying.

Bobby, I was struggling trying to= find some good math and results for the inlet size. I ended up going with = 20% of the core face. I do have one printed at 30% if I need to switch it u= p. Would only take a few hours to glass now that everything is setup and in= the autocad system.

Charlie, try out Fusion 360 by autocad. It's fr= ee, and actually not to hard to use. I research on YouTube a lot to figure = out how to do things. I'd like to do some college night courses on it down = the road. I have not done any 'tuf' tests or yarn. Just before xmas, I was = looking at Harbour Freight if they have any good leaf blowers on sale. Ther= e are some computer wind tunnel programs to try out, but my brain is alread= y overloaded right now. When I sketched out the truppet shape, I used the&n= bsp;Kuchemann and Weber th= eories to come up with the length and curves. I'll actually try a vacuum cleaner and= some yarn and see how it looks for the two corners next time it's off= .

Andrew, I'm not flying yet but I hope my inlets get a good = prop blast how I have them. Left is Oil, Right is intake, and bottom is coo= lant.

*I wish we could move this whole email thing= to a web fourm like http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com
Attaching tiny pi= ctures is driving me crazy.


- Matt Boiteau
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On 1/6= /2019 5:54:32 PM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au <flyrotary@lancai= ronline.net> wrote:

Matt. What Neil, Bobby & Charlie said. = ; I am making all the mistakes, I have same oil cooler and now repositionin= g to face it onto airflow, I find low speed, high power & summer heat i= s challenging, but need to get through this to get to cruise height & p= ower, so design for worst airflow your plane will see, admittedly, my inlet= is closer to prop hub and does not see enough prop blast for real good gro= und testing at very high power. So all my high power tests have been flying= circuits, some at very low level. disconcerting if a change that should im= prove cooling in theory has the opposite effect.

Andrew


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