X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=No+TSIVJ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=PLmf03/XISqa0a2yp/VmgA==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=rQabuP55D6ReC8VV4UYA:9 a=wixjoQHMXgQvhbZO:21 a=lgK3kdt9L4oFZC6y:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pl1-f182.google.com ([209.85.214.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.10) with ESMTPS id 12062498 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 01:19:08 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.182; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pl1-f182.google.com with SMTP id p8so15481523plo.2 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:19:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=epsutxkroJNmJTuLHXowFfZk7juNBUUsTHS8JEBi+zY=; b=M2xekirm77uJsKghB643u9zIaZ7fIqVMZ11BMojjRhl/x0XjbT4jBCxUBFqDsiwn3U Nzn20wtJHDJ6JrgfZCclk2K4/5du5pps21GyKD5CF3pbq6EVw0zTbGn0h0S+NwCnVDBM zmtbN28oyf3K4RMvI+rG6cHGjRQbUCiE5umhxtwN0CNG2IqWcWQ3Ak5TzfCp3C36bLZ/ Khh6zPT0X+XZC6yFetV0tE9pSSZYOVgVkqcdq2jpHcHvSCmfyWg8gCe7AqvTk8u2ItSc O509FgRtjq5PBZVgKH4seKVtjSy/KzMxxKIO0szGRGfJjFCKq98ivxKhjtFE7utJvPfM +/8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=epsutxkroJNmJTuLHXowFfZk7juNBUUsTHS8JEBi+zY=; b=eTGKM7rBRhLLawXRsXD9aYa8XuV1rgS/6EFrqr2E0x4HW2d9pefHmV+LuTdmOXPAu7 xlFg7clZeTUC7AqKL8psTD73/8HNaEiq/bDFzng33+I9wKOspCHZ3tKsXemARfINxNOw Cr2ts0QiEIfsIKXmkTDb5cHbwyOq9FCRHp98jvvIB6GkmB/jMGGrQYF/niTr6MTru4kW zObWXgvdevo5q950jrB8eTvQ79jR457UMfuBbrLPbmZBUrz1aTyr0nsOT4NKZi5/ciK3 FG95HD7/NQ828bkL5IxiJ7bQasfWQ1q31C1i++q7nIStwjH8c3WQ0NiAs4aS+3ump8O1 5DFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukeakfYCybyvVXfkcH71WBIkuclv29vUFDp32C4fs8WYbnzshBUf bla6ZUvvFcIfiPosVyKCJJ1IS3tN X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5/arFUyKzrqi/10/bdAoHX9ffbQ+rC+/HAN9BH+ot2NCzchaMai0Wuk7hQMmbKf0UzKUBUCA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9a41:: with SMTP id x1mr45526605plv.126.1546496331734; Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:18:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e131sm84314702pfg.75.2019.01.02.22.18.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:18:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Saga continues To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <1f5ec199-4c3e-7b6f-8108-8ee3d3389a70@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:18:46 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Andrew,                    I think it was you who condemned my remote filter as undersized, anyway someone did.  I have a 3/4 inch inlet size and out but sized down to 1/2 inch lines to and from.  Oil pressure at cold is 120 psi and runs at 85 when hot or slightly less.  I have one temp sensor in the back iron where Mazda put theirs and another one in the reduction drive.  Temp in the reduction drive is always higher than the one in the rear iron as I suspect water is aiding that reading.  Get up to 95 degrees in the reduction drive and only 85 to 90 in the rear iron. Have  just a pressure reading post filter.    It seems happy, so I am just flying. Have a stock exhaust manifold coming to see what I can do to reverse the direction and then fit a turbo.  Yeah I should be shot I know, but just cannot stop fiddling.  Will fit to another engine on the floor and then hopefully the change over will not ground me for long.  I have an operation on my foot in Mid March which means I am grounded for 6 weeks, so me and my crutches should get the change over done in that time. Best for new year!  Neil On 1/3/2019 3:19 PM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au wrote: > Really think I’m starting to win. But very slowly, which is > frustrating. Seems my initial overheating issues were a combination of > many things, not each that bad in installation but added together!!!! > and each masks the others. > > Mocal oil cooler definately works, and judicious application of duct > tape over all the now unnecessary holes in the cowl to improve airflow > seems to have done the job, and can now be done proper again with grp. > > But. Seems my oil filter is next on the list to address. I used the > stock mazda renesis oil filter. It actually looks too small to use ( > which I now believe it is)  but I stuck with it because I assumed > mazda did the calculations ( No, the accountants probably took over). > Mazda’s filter setup only filters oil going to the oil galleries, most > oil is not filtered and just returns to sump via the OCV. Since > fitting new oil cooler I now also have 2 temp sensors, both after the > oil cooler but original 1 is also after the filter. Both are on rear iron. > > On latest flight, oil going to OCV max’d at 176f  while filtered oil > going to oil gallery/rotors kept climbing to 216f where I aborted the > climb. Couldve kept going as temp started to behave as I reduced > climb, but I really want to fix these little nuances that restrict > performance. Maybe something unknown is affecting the sensor, > otherwise it has to be the filter. > > So, 2 choices, either a better filter that just filters gallery/rotor > oil, or a remote filter that filters all oil. > If using remote filters, what size/part number do you use? Has anyone > measured presure drop/ restriction through filters? > > Andrew > > > >