X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Tom Gillespie" Received: from nm29-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.159] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c1) with ESMTPS id 9583190 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:29:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.159; envelope-from=pseudowilly33@ymail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1489854542; bh=tPKEJ6NGF+VHIGX94/o1CoRuqJfedzA15lhqHIuSWXs=; h=Subject:References:From:In-Reply-To:Date:To:From:Subject; b=rPA8WOBXPJDsdhcIky+Ulo95VusKvu6VkCHOFbTVRxlqvgp1AQgnxMVQUaZOrP1LXHxphRS15SYlZReCFD2vua4FYdRUax8ZjC3CZhRQGhs6Wl3y9irLy3EgbGcvKm8Cte4u82gG9a8gk+7Gl7W8nmRzql9H5M6hpLiyk+sWiVPvoxdCprtUy+vfHfXdcjh4kNN+GxnQfcMn1iB1+TCy6u4fuAGlqrtcXJzhBN9q7EnevFRopE4L7Rg21pVnbZz2JQ29Tje3jVYsIQS6gtcex9NEGYBct3emQh0gJ81rENABC5OmZa1eos4uPE/dEfZbfAXsq0g2+ybGSHsUkkwLPA== Received: from [98.138.100.115] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2017 16:29:02 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.124] by tm106.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2017 16:29:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2017 16:29:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 882872.20561.bm@smtp203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: wur8EjwVM1mt_wx1r3w7wm8I3elWqBFi7qKzpNU9lqf62H_ yVmNHCpQXsF4NeJHKa893YodQFXFXqNx0_3g3xpnKTDhtTxMd6i5LV_89BZj kr0D1uo3JfDqUavR3z1vQkKUw6GE8lTz34zW5kL0oYNviGi1fr_hwyxGVO2r MHYgHB1cwpgkmh3z7FVFDdwY5y_R3YQehZhupEOzsi1jPVKkeSff9_BctHLR maUs0knY_YIqAQPj9ZAXPeW_SkrlrTIMfr6rNqyfpwsAr.DysgzNRMgeM7K. xuBPzl1m6U.1adU2w7seqaCPoVC.VbGHUHJoXHZ3JeT6ZAl3rGM13nBm_a95 Rktn9IA2xTmTylhQfdVkIc__dMXZu_o7hvY0Lwx7s4jLiJtto3rKs4udXv9H UwVb9Jpg_2RQD0wFQp8qDha9s6wUqw0nxiIvv7uryjV2SGJgMaGXvFqA56eM HIeTzLiO4HTYIYP3ppuJK1dNYFwslFw6MK6HbSVc6yOSYN6IdENQ.QedV62b ky4u0bQp.Jz03xafqcv2n6ryG5YBngtDMN66rnWlmFfi5UTwJ0KaMDlvfSAe Ba4IFdFxZ4NCebucG3nK3P.8gGO41 X-Yahoo-SMTP: r3Tl7fOswBCWET4zQp0OXOIdtYNw.bspH57OdKtCGLEfZxQ8 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Mazda Re-drive on the Horizon References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-446484712 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:33:07 -0400 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) --Apple-Mail-8-446484712 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok, my engine guy=20 tells me I should be in=20 the 350 to 400 hp range.=20 Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:47 AM, "Kelly Troyer" w= rote: > Tom and Group, > Forgot to add that Stuart says this PSRU will handle up to 300 HP....= ......So should work > for a non turbo 20B.............. >=20 > Kelly troyer >=20 > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > Tom, >=20 > To my knowledge Stuart is not on this forum.........His PSRU's have been= principally been used on=20 > Chevrolet V8 and Subaru engines.......The version to be adapted to the Rot= ary is basically the same=20 > as that used on the Subaru (With ratios appropriate for the Rotary) and a d= ifferent harmonic damper... > Time will tell if his PSRU works for the rotary...........<:) >=20 > Kelly troyer >=20 > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Charlie England wrote: > I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but this >>=20 >> Due to the differences between rotary and piston engines our standard=20 >> clutch mechanism will be changed to a dampening drive plate. This takes=20= >> advantage of the rotating mass of the gearbox and propeller to reduce=20 >> the weight of the flywheel while preventing damaging harmonics. This=20 >> also saves a lot of weight several different ways and makes the whole=20 >> package more compact. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > doesn't give me that warm & fuzzy feeling about the engineering.=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: >=20 > Rotary Group, > This from Stuart Davis of "Auto PSRUs"............Perhaps of interest t= o those still looking for a=20 > Mazda Rotary re-drive........... > =20 > Kelly Troyer >=20 >=20 > stuart@autopsrus.com=20 > To=09 > Today at 11:31 AM > Kelly, >=20 > Sorry to hear that you won't be at Sun N Fun. I do understand that you=20 > would like more info, but I will have to provide what I can now and the=20= > rest later as I have already started packing the trailer for Sun N Fun. >=20 > The 200Z gearbox uses 2 sets of interchangeable gears allowing me to=20 > customize the gear ratio from 1:1 all the way up to 3.54:1, so getting a=20= > gear ratio that will allow the 13B the rpms needed to generate good=20 > power and keep the propeller below 2700 rpm is the easy part. All of the=20= > same features will be retained in the 200Z for lubrication and easily=20 > supporting hydraulic constant speed propellers. The propeller shaft=20 > rotates with the standard propeller rotation so more expensive pusher=20 > propellers are not required. >=20 > Pictures will be taken as Sun N Fun where Ed Kelepeis will provide his=20 > Mazda Renesis engine to display everything on. Ed has also finished his=20= > new fuel injection manifold to display as well. This is when I will get=20= > all of my pictures to share with everyone. I should be able to send=20 > those out during Sun N Fun. >=20 > Due to the differences between rotary and piston engines our standard=20 > clutch mechanism will be changed to a dampening drive plate. This takes=20= > advantage of the rotating mass of the gearbox and propeller to reduce=20 > the weight of the flywheel while preventing damaging harmonics. This=20 > also saves a lot of weight several different ways and makes the whole=20 > package more compact. >=20 > The initial display will use an existing bell housing of cast aluminum=20 > that is on loan to me. The worst thing about this bell housing is the=20 > starter is in the worst location possible for using it with the 200Z=20 > gearbox (MURPHY!). I have been able to extract all the critical=20 > engineering data from this bell housing to design a stronger and lighter=20= > CNC bell housing incorporating several other features that will reduce=20 > part count, interface complexities, costs, and puts the starter where it=20= > needs to go. >=20 > I have also located the sources for converting carbureted 13Bs to fuel=20 > injection, a good ECU that controls the fuel and ignition, and a=20 > normalizing turbo charger system that automatically prevents accidental=20= > over boosting. The sea level boost is a mild 2psi and should maintain=20 > sea level power to 16,000 ft. >=20 > That's about all the info I can provide right now. I'm sorry if this=20 > seems more like a teaser than all the info you were looking for, but=20 > being in the early development stages has its limits. If everything goes=20= > well I might have a 13B prototype firewall forward package on display at=20= > AirVenture. Certainly there will be a lot more information coming out=20 > between now and then. >=20 > Thanks for asking for more info. I will put out more announcements as=20 > things develop. >=20 > Thanks, > Stuart Davis > Auto PSRUs > 936-827-5126 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-8-446484712 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Ok, my engine guy 
tells= me I should be in 
the 350 to 400 hp
range. <= /div>
Thanks



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:47 AM, "Kelly Troyer" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Tom a= nd Group,
     Forgot to add that Stuart says this PSRU w= ill handle up to 300 HP..........So should work
for a non turbo 20= B..............

Kelly troyer

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 10:38 AM, K= elly Troyer <keltro@gmail.com>= wrote:
Tom,
  To my knowledge Stuart is not on this forum.........His PSRU's= have been principally been used on 
Chevrolet V8 and Subaru e= ngines.......The version to be adapted to the Rotary is basically the same&n= bsp;
as that used on the Subaru (With ratios appropriate for the R= otary) and a different harmonic damper...
  Time will tell if= his PSRU works for the rotary...........<:)
=

Kelly troyer
=

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Charlie England <= flyrotary@lancaironline.net><= /span> wrote:
I didn't sta= y at a Holiday Inn last night, but this
Due to the d= ifferences between rotary and piston engines our standard 
clutch mechanism will be chan= ged to a dampening drive plate. This takes 
advantage of the rotating mass of the gearbo= x and propeller to reduce 
the weight of the flywheel while preventing damaging harmonic= s. This 
als= o saves a lot of weight several different ways and makes the whole 
package more compact.=



doesn't gi= ve me that warm & fuzzy feeling about the engineering. 
=

On Thu, Mar 16= , 2017 at 5:07 PM, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Rotary Group,
    This from Stuart Davis of "Auto PSRUs"............Perhap= s of interest to those still looking for a 
Mazda Rotary re-drive...........
=
 
Kelly Troyer

=
stuart@autopsrus.co= m 
To

Today at 11:31 AM
Kelly,

Sorry to hear that you won't be at Sun N Fun. I do understand= that you 
would l= ike more info, but I will have to provide what I can now and the 
rest later as I have already= started packing the trailer for Sun N Fun.

T= he 200Z gearbox uses 2 sets of interchangeable gears allowing me to customize the gear ratio f= rom 1:1 all the way up to 3.54:1, so getting a 
gear ratio that will allow the 13B the rpms ne= eded to generate good 
power and keep the propeller below 2700 rpm is the easy part. All of th= e 
same features w= ill be retained in the 200Z for lubrication and easily 
supporting hydraulic constant speed pr= opellers. The propeller shaft 
rotates with the standard propeller rotation so more expensive p= usher 
propellers a= re not required.

Pictures will be taken as Su= n N Fun where Ed Kelepeis will provide his 
Mazda Renesis engine to display everything on. Ed h= as also finished his 
new fuel injection manifold to display as well. This is when I will get&= nbsp;
all of my picture= s to share with everyone. I should be able to send 
those out during Sun N Fun.

Due to the differences between rotary and piston engines ou= r standard 
clutch= mechanism will be changed to a dampening drive plate. This takes 
advantage of the rotating m= ass of the gearbox and propeller to reduce 
the weight of the flywheel while preventing damagi= ng harmonics. This 
package more compact.=

The initial display will use an existing bel= l housing of cast aluminum 
that is on loan to me. The worst thing about this bell housing is t= he 
starter is in t= he worst location possible for using it with the 200Z 
gearbox (MURPHY!). I have been able to e= xtract all the critical 
engineering data from this bell housing to design a stronger and ligh= ter 
CNC bell hous= ing incorporating several other features that will reduce 
part count, interface complexities,= costs, and puts the starter where it 
needs to go.

I have also= located the sources for converting carbureted 13Bs to fuel 
injection, a good ECU that contro= ls the fuel and ignition, and a 
normalizing turbo charger system that automatically prevents a= ccidental 
over bo= osting. The sea level boost is a mild 2psi and should maintain 
sea level power to 16,000 ft.
That's about all the info I can provide right n= ow. I'm sorry if this 
seems more like a teaser than all the info you were looking for, but&nb= sp;
being in the early d= evelopment stages has its limits. If everything goes 
well I might have a 13B prototype firewa= ll forward package on display at 
AirVenture. Certainly there will be a lot more information c= oming out 
between= now and then.

Thanks for asking for more info= . I will put out more announcements as 
things develop.

Thanks,=
Stuart Davis
Auto PSRUs
936-827-5126
=









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