X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Tom Gillespie" Received: from nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.179] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c1) with ESMTPS id 9583186 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:27:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.179; envelope-from=pseudowilly33@ymail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1489854431; bh=6HTm2F80oLvkhLDROkp/FQqziIyhdQF/QM9KAluk2+Q=; h=Subject:References:From:In-Reply-To:Date:To:From:Subject; b=kbVU5ZFfjKA15aFp6Wl7kPNdOWCm1fGj0s6M5RQyoPKmJ8HVm9qomr5B96L9Oh69ZqaYrOzjOQCF+3CdEC+4SDd6PExnJZeH7ghlS9SaS0Ml26LD8PT6g7J/arkFuhZ88uIbYxUtPbo/jIFF0rLaVDpnUFzyaz5dMrrUqxR755HBbTCT61APlOpxAk72TuYYWAAkXp1IQ9tIvYKb3s3f/FBVya2RiPDCjh1h4LuDuc00B8FEvrh70oRtUFeMgp76rQZrMOkZ2qG+hoxmfLNvxIRCVg2DxLYHWcUvbWLg2WI8OdQsiWxfjcIpN4oVKaZeplwJM8a5H3zW+xmp7qWGJA== Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2017 16:27:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.56] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2017 16:27:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2017 16:27:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 773044.15274.bm@smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 2KVVqwsVM1m1GUKdpoBAdXBD01uuXFHMYsVxdqdNEK6Q7o1 SIBuaydVDv5JZRORwrYq.1NjkIceogNYEQhYcLJ_GP99y9vNikkwdDaw7MjR QAv3fv8MnbQt7LJUINdnUAxgNY6IsqXVJp_RmVoS5XGADZkqW6oegh.bTUo6 uEQa1_l1cnDmEEsEx633YKKUgmEN9Ko9tkFhJlem4y2CINCAzZ9Niv1G685Z q5yjknaaNjBf4FUKZtzmTo45.bfhgT2z6Qv3rCsCj9Exb4kmWT2g7NGG.iyz sirOxxNJvIuKaJXkhpe3Dsox4TGA6sHDGe1QYFAfoinP6FA7gZ42.2rBwM2p cwKl90sHIpRJ.OUYHQhC8tVnCxzFd4cGoWTMifh17DtS3McUL_9PzCuql3IA 44wAryxqIBlXW4pL3vIk1YRznklUpmFRSCZEb5aroBjSQ1TdBEnkHPQwQwsV AppVH_pJk5fgWv9ieKM5iYOeOsZR4ZSkPDTpK.USzfezcxwIEqIWG6ia0wMn 86pMkLYpGw.2_3e8jYg.HUmXoxEKAJFyk9AHjAZ35SnKesOrARY4gCr3BWB0 BlRNG2yShG0InwtcxPvR2aXk3ogWM X-Yahoo-SMTP: r3Tl7fOswBCWET4zQp0OXOIdtYNw.bspH57OdKtCGLEfZxQ8 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Mazda Re-drive on the Horizon References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-446374309 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:31:17 -0400 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) --Apple-Mail-7-446374309 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok, thanks for the response. I'll keep watching for more news.=20 Thanks! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Kelly Troyer" w= rote: > Tom, >=20 > To my knowledge Stuart is not on this forum.........His PSRU's have been= principally been used on=20 > Chevrolet V8 and Subaru engines.......The version to be adapted to the Rot= ary is basically the same=20 > as that used on the Subaru (With ratios appropriate for the Rotary) and a d= ifferent harmonic damper... > Time will tell if his PSRU works for the rotary...........<:) >=20 > Kelly troyer >=20 > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Charlie England wrote: > I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but this >>=20 >> Due to the differences between rotary and piston engines our standard=20 >> clutch mechanism will be changed to a dampening drive plate. This takes=20= >> advantage of the rotating mass of the gearbox and propeller to reduce=20 >> the weight of the flywheel while preventing damaging harmonics. This=20 >> also saves a lot of weight several different ways and makes the whole=20 >> package more compact. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > doesn't give me that warm & fuzzy feeling about the engineering.=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: >=20 > Rotary Group, > This from Stuart Davis of "Auto PSRUs"............Perhaps of interest t= o those still looking for a=20 > Mazda Rotary re-drive........... > =20 > Kelly Troyer >=20 >=20 > stuart@autopsrus.com=20 > To=09 > Today at 11:31 AM > Kelly, >=20 > Sorry to hear that you won't be at Sun N Fun. I do understand that you=20 > would like more info, but I will have to provide what I can now and the=20= > rest later as I have already started packing the trailer for Sun N Fun. >=20 > The 200Z gearbox uses 2 sets of interchangeable gears allowing me to=20 > customize the gear ratio from 1:1 all the way up to 3.54:1, so getting a=20= > gear ratio that will allow the 13B the rpms needed to generate good=20 > power and keep the propeller below 2700 rpm is the easy part. All of the=20= > same features will be retained in the 200Z for lubrication and easily=20 > supporting hydraulic constant speed propellers. The propeller shaft=20 > rotates with the standard propeller rotation so more expensive pusher=20 > propellers are not required. >=20 > Pictures will be taken as Sun N Fun where Ed Kelepeis will provide his=20 > Mazda Renesis engine to display everything on. Ed has also finished his=20= > new fuel injection manifold to display as well. This is when I will get=20= > all of my pictures to share with everyone. I should be able to send=20 > those out during Sun N Fun. >=20 > Due to the differences between rotary and piston engines our standard=20 > clutch mechanism will be changed to a dampening drive plate. This takes=20= > advantage of the rotating mass of the gearbox and propeller to reduce=20 > the weight of the flywheel while preventing damaging harmonics. This=20 > also saves a lot of weight several different ways and makes the whole=20 > package more compact. >=20 > The initial display will use an existing bell housing of cast aluminum=20 > that is on loan to me. The worst thing about this bell housing is the=20 > starter is in the worst location possible for using it with the 200Z=20 > gearbox (MURPHY!). I have been able to extract all the critical=20 > engineering data from this bell housing to design a stronger and lighter=20= > CNC bell housing incorporating several other features that will reduce=20 > part count, interface complexities, costs, and puts the starter where it=20= > needs to go. >=20 > I have also located the sources for converting carbureted 13Bs to fuel=20 > injection, a good ECU that controls the fuel and ignition, and a=20 > normalizing turbo charger system that automatically prevents accidental=20= > over boosting. The sea level boost is a mild 2psi and should maintain=20 > sea level power to 16,000 ft. >=20 > That's about all the info I can provide right now. I'm sorry if this=20 > seems more like a teaser than all the info you were looking for, but=20 > being in the early development stages has its limits. If everything goes=20= > well I might have a 13B prototype firewall forward package on display at=20= > AirVenture. Certainly there will be a lot more information coming out=20 > between now and then. >=20 > Thanks for asking for more info. I will put out more announcements as=20 > things develop. >=20 > Thanks, > Stuart Davis > Auto PSRUs > 936-827-5126 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-7-446374309 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Ok, thanks for the
response. I= 'll keep
watching for more
news. 
Thanks!=



Sent from my iPhone

On M= ar 18, 2017, at 11:38 AM, "Kelly Troyer" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Tom,

&nb= sp; To my knowledge Stuart is not on this forum.........His PSRU's have been= principally been used on 
Chevrolet V8 and Subaru engines...= ....The version to be adapted to the Rotary is basically the same 
as that used on the Subaru (With ratios appropriate for the Rotary) an= d a different harmonic damper...
  Time will tell if his PSRU= works for the rotary...........<:)

Kelly troyer=

On Sat, Mar 1= 8, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #= ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn l= ast night, but this
Due to the differences between rotary and piston engines our standard&n= bsp;
clutch mechanism will be changed= to a dampening drive plate. This takes 
advantage of the rotating mass of the gearbox and propeller to redu= ce 
the weight of the flywheel w= hile preventing damaging harmonics. This 
also saves a lot of weight several different ways and makes the wh= ole 
package more compact.
=



doesn't give me t= hat warm & fuzzy feeling about the engineering. 

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Rotary Group,
    This from Stuart= Davis of "Auto PSRUs"............Perhaps of interest to those still looking= for a 
Mazda Rotary re-drive...........
=
 
Kelly Troyer


Today at 11:31&nbs= p;AM
<= div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_1281646848499287531m_5486412910180573939gmail-yiv308= 1276600yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489676000130_19427" style=3D"display:table-cell;wi= dth:auto;word-wrap:break-word">Kelly,

Sorry to hear that you won't be at Sun N Fun. I= do understand that you 
would like mo= re info, but I will have to provide what I can now and the 
rest later as I have already started packing the trail= er for Sun N Fun.

The 200Z gearbox uses 2 sets of interchangeable gears allowing me t= o 
customize the gear ratio from 1:1 a= ll the way up to 3.54:1, so getting a 
gear ratio that will allow the 13B the rpms needed to generate good power and keep the propeller below 2700 rpm i= s the easy part. All of the 
same feat= ures will be retained in the 200Z for lubrication and easily 
supporting hydraulic constant speed propellers. The p= ropeller shaft 
rotates with the stand= ard propeller rotation so more expensive pusher 
propellers are not required.
Pictures will be taken as Sun N Fun where Ed K= elepeis will provide his 
Mazda Renesi= s engine to display everything on. Ed has also finished his 
new fuel injection manifold to display as well. This i= s when I will get 
all of my pictures t= o share with everyone. I should be able to send 
those out during Sun N Fun.

Due to the differences between rotary and pisto= n engines our standard 
clutch mechani= sm will be changed to a dampening drive plate. This takes 
advantage of the rotating mass of the gearbox and prope= ller to reduce 
the weight of the flyw= heel while preventing damaging harmonics. This 
also saves a lot of weight several different ways and makes the wh= ole 
package more compact.

The initial display w= ill use an existing bell housing of cast aluminum 
that is on loan to me. The worst thing about this bell housing i= s the 
starter is in the worst locatio= n possible for using it with the 200Z 
gearbox (MURPHY!). I have been able to extract all the critical 
engineering data from this bell housing to desig= n a stronger and lighter 
CNC bell hou= sing incorporating several other features that will reduce 
part count, interface complexities, costs, and puts th= e starter where it 
needs to go.

I have also lo= cated the sources for converting carbureted 13Bs to fuel 
injection, a good ECU that controls the fuel and ignitio= n, and a 
normalizing turbo charger sy= stem that automatically prevents accidental 
over boosting. The sea level boost is a mild 2psi and should maintain=  
sea level power to 16,000 ft.

That's about all t= he info I can provide right now. I'm sorry if this 
seems more like a teaser than all the info you were looking fo= r, but 
being in the early development= stages has its limits. If everything goes 
well I might have a 13B prototype firewall forward package on display a= t 
AirVenture. Certainly there will be= a lot more information coming out 
be= tween now and then.

Thanks for asking for more info. I will put out more announcement= s as 
things develop.

Thanks,
Stuart Davis
Auto PSRUs
936-827-5126





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