From: "William Jepson" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 23:28:45 -0800
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Rotary FWF Companies
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Doug,
You are saying exactly what I'm talking about. I am going to build a new
reduction drive. I'm doing it for my own use. If I can sell some to get the
cost down I will do it. But common sense tells you this is a very small
part of a small market, ( experimental aircraft ), so you will be lucky to
cover your costs. That is all I want to do. Additionally that is what Steve
expects me to do. Carry on so the development he and Everett did isn't
wasted. I really like this engine package, and truly believe it can be
better than a Lyc or Continental at a lower weight and lower price. I
believe the best way to do this is with well designed-to-task parts. Not
re-packaged truck transmissions that "might" hold up or might not! These
are airplanes people, you want to use parts designed for the aircraft duty
cycle. You want a working adaquate radiator set up. Many auto engines will
work if they have the support equipment they need. I like the rotary
myself. The reduction drive will be first and flying before anyone gets
one. Then a EMS
 Then a FWF, if I have time and can afford it. This isn't my day job,
unless I get very lucky. I certainly don't expect that. I do have design
tools and will keep working. Even Powersport, (the original), was an
outgrowth of Everett and Steve's successful engine and race shop. Everett
was a mechanical genius, and whatever he made he was underpaid. Steve is
the most dedicated and focused guy I have ever met. He told me that he
stepped back once and looked at what they had done and what it took to get
there. He said that he and Everett had worked 10 to 14 hours a day every
day for 2 straight years. No weekends off no let up before they finalized
what they were going to sell. Producing something like this isn't easy.
Don't let anyone dupe you and tell you it is. I hope I can do even nearly
as well. (He now steps off the soapbox)

Bill Jepson

On Feb 8, 2017 10:50 PM, "Doug Lomheim" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote=
:

> Bill Jepsen wrote; =E2=80=9C...My opinion is that had the guys that bough=
t the
> company just started selling that package they would be a force in the
> experimental market today. But like so many others they wanted to change =
a
> bunch of stuff and that pushed the price way up.
> Bill=E2=80=9D
>
> This seems to be an ongoing trend with start up companies who desire to
> have a =E2=80=9Cperfect=E2=80=9D FWF package before they go to market.  I=
 think if they
> would offer up individual parts of their package for sale to guys
> developing their own packages they would have a nice way to "beta
> test=E2=80=9D their products while also helping their cashflow as well.  =
I think
> many guys would buy an intake manifold or a bolt on muffler system, or an
> engine mount, etc. if the various companies which have now gone broke wou=
ld
> have offered it up, etc. while they were seeking that perfect product to
> sell.
>
> Doug
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Doug,=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">You are saying exactly what =
I&#39;m talking about. I am going to build a new reduction drive. I&#39;m d=
oing it for my own use. If I can sell some to get the cost down I will do i=
t. But common sense tells you this is a very small part of a small market, =
( experimental aircraft ), so you will be lucky to cover your costs. That i=
s all I want to do. Additionally that is what Steve expects me to do. Carry=
 on so the development he and Everett did isn&#39;t wasted. I really like t=
his engine package, and truly believe it can be better than a Lyc or Contin=
ental at a lower weight and lower price. I believe the best way to do this =
is with well designed-to-task parts. Not re-packaged truck transmissions th=
at &quot;might&quot; hold up or might not! These are airplanes people, you =
want to use parts designed for the aircraft duty cycle. You want a working =
adaquate radiator set up. Many auto engines will work if they have the supp=
ort equipment they need. I like the rotary myself. The reduction drive will=
 be first and flying before anyone gets one. Then a EMS</div><div dir=3D"au=
to">=C2=A0Then a FWF, if I have time and can afford it. This isn&#39;t my d=
ay job, unless I get very lucky. I certainly don&#39;t expect that. I do ha=
ve design tools and will keep working. Even Powersport, (the original), was=
 an outgrowth of Everett and Steve&#39;s successful engine and race shop. E=
verett was a mechanical genius, and whatever he made he was underpaid. Stev=
e is the most dedicated and focused guy I have ever met. He told me that he=
 stepped back once and looked at what they had done and what it took to get=
 there. He said that he and Everett had worked 10 to 14 hours a day every d=
ay for 2 straight years. No weekends off no let up before they finalized wh=
at they were going to sell. Producing something like this isn&#39;t easy. D=
on&#39;t let anyone dupe you and tell you it is. I hope I can do even nearl=
y as well. (He now steps off the soapbox)</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">Bill=
 Jepson</div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Feb 8, 2017 10:50 PM, &quot;Doug Lomheim&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
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pan style=3D"font-family:-webkit-standard">My opinion is that had the guys =
that bought the company just started selling that package they would be a f=
orce in the experimental market today. But like so many others they wanted =
to change a bunch of stuff and that pushed the price way up.=C2=A0</span><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:-webkit-standard">Bill=E2=80=9D</div><div style=3D"=
font-family:-webkit-standard"><br></div><div><font size=3D"4"><font face=3D=
"-webkit-standard">This seems to be an ongoing trend with start up companie=
s who desire to have a=C2=A0=E2=80=9Cperfect=E2=80=9D FWF package before th=
ey go to market.=C2=A0 I think if they would offer up individual parts of t=
heir package for sale to guys developing their own packages they would have=
 a nice way to=C2=A0&quot;beta test=E2=80=9D=C2=A0their products while also=
 helping their cashflow as well.=C2=A0 I think many guys would buy an intak=
e manifold or a bolt on muffler system, or an engine mount, etc. if the var=
ious companies which have now gone broke would have offered it up, etc. whi=
le they were seeking that perfect product to sell.</font></font></div><div>=
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iv><font size=3D"4"><font face=3D"-webkit-standard">Doug=C2=A0</font></font=
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