Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #63074
From: William Jepson <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] General Rotary Porting url & PSRU
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:38:43 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Richard,
First, the Peripheral port rotaries are NOT narrow band engines. The P-port rotary we  been running on the test stand makes more power than a side port, at a lower RPM than a similar side port. It also idles at 1200 engine RPM with no problem. The only reason the cars aren't peripheral port is that the p-port engine makes less torque at 20% than the side port and the cars all run down there. I have have long claimed that the rotary makes a better airplane engine than a car engine! Very few people are running the engine in their planes at less than 40% power. Even then the P-port is fine you just can't port it for max power at 10,000 RPM. If you port for 6-7K the rotary is very flexible. We have been reluctant to show this until the engine is flying in that airplane but I'm including a link showing what I'm talking about. This is the engine on the aircraft dyno. This video was made while tuning the airflow performance aircraft FI so the engine isn't even at its best yet. This small port engine is running through a muffler designed to fit under the cowl of an RV-3! It tested in this configuration to 185 HP at 6400 engine RPM. We put a larger muffler that would work in a bigger plane and got 195 HP. The engine has hours on the dyno but the proof is really when it's flying. 
Bill


On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:49 AM, Richard Van Camp <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
I forgot about this reference.  I located it again over the weekend.

http://www.mazdarotary.net/porting.htm


Charlie, you are rigorously correct in that I stated peripheral porting I overuse this term because this is what I read referenced in the rotary aviation use discussions.  If this reference is a sound technical reference I see no reason why anyone would want to use peripheral porting in aviation applications.  I realize there may be issues I do not yet understand but, engineering a "narrowband" engine does not appear to be useful for my aircraft application (a 4-place taildragger).  I suspect the "Extend" port to be a better choice for me yet, the "Mild" may also work.  Even with this, I do not care for the slight decrease in torque below 4000 rpm.  Has anyone ever seen any of these side ports referenced in aviation applications?

I saw Nel's response and looked at the www.rotapower.eu to locate information regarding the PSRU.  Unfortunately, I found nothing.  I know of Paul Moller and have for several years.  He has some good ideas but, I would like to see these come to fruition to a greater degree.  The need for funds gets in the way of accomplishments.

Rick

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