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if you might be considering buying an older used unit, here is my =
experience.  Hope you may get a chuckle from it.  Farmer John, w/Wittman =
W-10 w/13B Mazda
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John=20
To: Tailwind=20
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Welding


Now that the fuselage is all welded up, piece of cake, it is time to =
move on to the the fuel tank.  I ask around at the local machine shops =
which had the capability and no one wanted to take on the job.  So I =
called down to the valley in the high rent district to the welding =
supply outfit the company was using and and asked if they ever had any =
used TIG outfits, the guy says we got one in last week and it was old =
but it worked well, so I told him I would come down and take a look at =
it.  Well, it was old all right, it looked like the one that Fred =
Flintstone and I took our instruction on, so I said, lets see it work.  =
The guy hooks up the ole buzz box and the exciter box and all the other =
things and starts welding, well it is doing a real nice job, so for =
$300.00 dollars I have a TIG outfit.   The guy says what do you have to =
haul this in and I said the ole Plymouth K-car wagon, he got a funny =
look on his face and said, drive around in back and I'll get the fork =
lift and we'll load this up.  We finally get all this equipment into the =
back of the ole wagon, by the way there was over 100 ft of welding cable =
larger than my thumb for the stick operation.

By the time all this was in the wagon the rear wheels were nearly =
cutting thru the sideways on the tires.  It was two blocks to the gas =
station and 45# of air in the rear tires gave them the appearance that I =
might make it home if I didn't go over 40 mph.  I folded up my winter =
coat to set on so I might see over the dash and started out for home, =
thankfully I only had 90 miles to go.  Those front wheel drive vehicles =
are not real stable with the front tires just barely touching the =
ground.  It was one of those solar vortex days at 0 degrees and a 30 mph =
breeze, so I had the freeway all to myself, I'm the only fool out there. =
 When I got home, in hindsight I should have thrown a chain around it =
and a fence post and never looked back.

After getting every thing into the garage with the loader and getting =
all the cables hooked up to the many places and purchasing a tank and =
flow meter it is time to practice on some aluminum.  So with the copper =
piece lying on the aluminum, which is needed to start and stabilize the =
arc on these old machines.  Now the new Tig welders use square waves and =
round waves but these older machines use Death Waves, when you turn it =
on you become aware that you have many fillings in your teeth.  Upon =
striking an arc and moving off the copper on to the aluminum, the metal =
seemed to vaporize with aluminum scattering 10 feet in every direction, =
WOW!!!! (censored).  Raising the hood, I'm thinking I must have gotten =
one of those cables connected to the Outhouse by mistake.  Anyway I =
became aware that the garage door on my wife's side of the garage was =
cycling up and down and smoke was coming out of the drive box, I =
unplugged the door opener and noticed the wireless telephone was stuck =
on a continuous ring before it went POOF!! and died.  I ran into the =
house to check on the wife, fully expecting to see her looking like a =
burnt piece of toast and the TV in flames as she watched Oprah.

The wife is okay and unaware that we could have lost the garage, house =
and everything in all this excitement.  I ask her if she would like to =
go out for lunch, realizing that this could have been real serious I =
stopped at the local steakhouse and relived myself of $30.00.  After =
dinner it was up the road, she says were are we going, answer, you know =
we have been having trouble with your garage door opener, well it died, =
so at sears, new opener $150.00.  Now where!!  I've got to stop at the =
Big Box store and pick up a new wireless phone, that cheap one just =
didn't last long, another $20.00.  Two weeks later at the EAA meeting I =
was talking to a fellow who doesn't come often and telling him about =
welding up the fuel tank and he says, I have one of those large Miller =
220V machines in the garage as his son is an aluminum welder and I =
should have brought it over.  Will I use this machine again, I hope I've =
forgotten how to turn it on.  If the price of copper stays high, I'll =
recover the cost.  Father always said, to soon old, to late smart.  At =
my age I hope I live long enough to see it happen.  Farmer John .... =
It's a good thing I can't add, I think the numbers would scare me
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>if you might be considering buying an =
older used=20
unit, here is my experience.&nbsp; Hope you may get a chuckle from =
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Farmer John, w/Wittman W-10 w/13B Mazda</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddowning.j@sbcglobal.net =
href=3D"mailto:downing.j@sbcglobal.net">John</A>=20
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DTailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com">Tailwind</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:17 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Welding</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Now that the fuselage is all welded up, =
piece of=20
cake, it is time to move on to the the fuel tank.&nbsp; I ask around at =
the=20
local machine shops which had the capability and no one wanted to take =
on the=20
job.&nbsp; So I called down to the valley in the high rent district to =
the=20
welding supply outfit the company was using and and asked if they ever =
had any=20
used TIG outfits, the guy says we got one in last week and it was old =
but it=20
worked well, so I told him I would come down and take a look at =
it.&nbsp; Well,=20
it was old all right, it looked like the one that Fred Flintstone and I =
took our=20
instruction on, so I said, lets see it work.&nbsp; The guy hooks up the =
ole buzz=20
box and the exciter box and all the other things and starts welding, =
well it is=20
doing a real nice job, so for $300.00 dollars I have a TIG =
outfit.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
The guy says what do you have to haul this in and I said the ole =
Plymouth K-car=20
wagon, he got a funny look on his face and said, drive around in back =
and I'll=20
get the fork lift and we'll load this up.&nbsp; We finally get all this=20
equipment into the back of the ole wagon, by the way there was over 100 =
ft of=20
welding cable larger than my thumb for the stick operation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>By the time all this was in the wagon =
the rear=20
wheels were nearly cutting thru the sideways on the tires.&nbsp; It was=20
two&nbsp;blocks to the gas station and 45# of air in the rear tires gave =
them=20
the appearance that I might make it home if I didn't go over 40 =
mph.&nbsp; I=20
folded up my winter coat to set on so I might see over the dash and =
started out=20
for home, thankfully I only had 90 miles to go.&nbsp; Those front wheel =
drive=20
vehicles are not real stable with the front tires just barely touching =
the=20
ground.&nbsp; It was one of those solar vortex days at 0 degrees and a =
30 mph=20
breeze, so I had the freeway all to myself, I'm the only fool out =
there.&nbsp;=20
When I got home, in hindsight I should have thrown a chain around it and =
a fence=20
post and never looked back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>After getting every thing into the =
garage with the=20
loader and getting all the cables hooked up to the many places and =
purchasing a=20
tank and flow meter it is time to practice on some aluminum.&nbsp; So =
with the=20
copper piece lying on the&nbsp;aluminum, which is needed to =
start&nbsp;and=20
stabilize the arc on these old machines.&nbsp; Now the new Tig welders =
use=20
square waves and round waves but these older machines use Death Waves, =
when you=20
turn it on you become aware that you have many fillings in your =
teeth.&nbsp;=20
Upon striking an arc and moving off the copper on to the aluminum, the =
metal=20
seemed to vaporize with aluminum scattering 10 feet in every direction, =
WOW!!!!=20
(censored).&nbsp; Raising the hood, I'm thinking I must have gotten one =
of those=20
cables connected to the Outhouse by mistake.&nbsp; Anyway I became aware =
that=20
the garage door on my wife's side of the garage was cycling up and down =
and=20
smoke was coming out of the drive box, I unplugged the door opener and =
noticed=20
the wireless telephone was stuck on a continuous ring before it went =
POOF!! and=20
died.&nbsp;&nbsp;I ran into the house to check on the wife, fully =
expecting to=20
see her looking like a burnt piece of toast and the TV in flames as she =
watched=20
Oprah.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The wife is okay and unaware that we =
could have=20
lost the garage, house and everything in all this excitement.&nbsp; I =
ask her if=20
she would like to go out for lunch, realizing that this could have been =
real=20
serious I stopped at the local steakhouse and relived myself of =
$30.00.&nbsp;=20
After dinner it was up the road, she says were are we going, answer, you =
know we=20
have been having trouble with your garage door opener, well it died, so =
at=20
sears, new opener $150.00.&nbsp; Now where!!&nbsp; I've got to stop at =
the Big=20
Box store and pick up a new wireless phone, that cheap one just didn't =
last=20
long, another $20.00.&nbsp; Two weeks later at the EAA meeting I was =
talking to=20
a fellow who doesn't come often and telling him about welding up the =
fuel tank=20
and he says, I have one of those large Miller 220V machines in the =
garage as his=20
son is an aluminum welder and I should have brought it over.&nbsp; Will =
I use=20
this machine again, I hope I've forgotten how to turn it on.&nbsp; If =
the price=20
of copper stays high, I'll recover the cost.&nbsp; Father always said, =
to soon=20
old, to late smart.&nbsp; At my age I hope I live&nbsp;long enough to =
see it=20
happen.&nbsp; Farmer John</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>.... =
It's a good=20
thing I can't add, I think the numbers would scare =
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