X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Todd Archer" Received: from mail-pf0-f182.google.com ([209.85.192.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTPS id 8376596 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 03:46:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.182; envelope-from=archerwt@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f182.google.com with SMTP id w123so10396768pfb.0 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 00:46:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=75BcY9mpUnonJgbdeapOOnN+rdUYzwu7deAsS0e0whQ=; b=eZoYXt/tN9vrxE93NZDdpLNkeA+n2vk1gp98/vrLP1qDPumHe368zLXqsp7skNJHPM ixCqImAEP3MrNfZMP2TcKjVG70C+FxQPKfziq1R0FY+kr4XyA2jMRxlixSGw6P/LkWP4 szberBstweKvcUtuu9j7e5Ip+VriKd07PgJthzWo2KTyViLZqudMSKj9kH2Te3kBukhp F+GjJWMxoQf5nrh8XZ69kPS8Bo4UeG3KcUPBYkT5gtQOkI4UUC/35vb5Fac5HZ2fFg3k QNlx5X+5uKY57htswv4aGKnJBw1cmj88W3kzTSgXA2N4DwceEPt/9md1cNzi3HYDoP1C pnbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=75BcY9mpUnonJgbdeapOOnN+rdUYzwu7deAsS0e0whQ=; b=Tw8o2XdjSPAkr13h+GxgzjplBdpLQUm03PrN6tnJn9GXGP0Hngsjx+73bS5BFsN/Rz jbOoG+1NTIBgKNPB3p438SVkV/aiz6GOVFnceFLTku334THYBeaLdJr5AIC0Fh66foid JN3Oc98CcC36nQB8xejd4LsA6bd5V9Y+eVpzTvKdLU+JQs+GvA2wTAM8EGAtMqfKUhFQ EnuYOPLiIM5t8ikEIrh7BrulLTlPOoTY4QTK8YuqqSWUctqnnGtcOFkpVi66+oxMLhv2 8GA1bWjKK1W1/1DaodNlgANlYZLfoNPEJZrs/rwYCs3vVYtcJQrUqnp5DkIhxtI1yczc MxJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSL2eCuiXBzTPmOBI3wriZLkfeNF/gZS4SNlcq22jG3o09qzY14al5Db/TYnBscgg== X-Received: by 10.98.34.212 with SMTP id p81mr439985pfj.23.1454489198619; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 00:46:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [10.10.50.146] (82-20-74-65.cu1.static.gci.net. [65.74.20.82]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 26sm7983152pfo.55.2016.02.03.00.46.37 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 03 Feb 2016 00:46:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <56B1BEFC.6090409@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 23:49:00 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Welding Equipment Recomendations References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're looking to stick a couple pieces of angle iron thickness together or tack things together for the trip to the finish welder, two of the processes are basically one step: stick (arc) and MIG (or flux-core wire feed). On the other hand, gas: several adjustments and coordination, and TIG: a couple steps and coordination. With stick, you simply need to have enough amps for good penetration and strike an arc. Also, stick is the cheapest to get up and going, no gas to keep up. Conventional transformer arc (stick) welders with as much current as you'll ever need and will last forever: Lincoln tombstone 225A https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/tls/5425483553.html Craftsman 220A https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/tls/5406990014.html Hobart https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/tls/5431083864.html Suitcase inverter arc welders mentioned are great, though sometimes a little more expensive. You could get the Craftsman, swing by any hardware store for electrodes, grab a $40 shield from HF, and you can weld up an oil derrick in your backyard before dinner. Then gain proficiency, take a shot at MIG or gas as your interest leads. Even if you pick up something else, you will find yourself going back to it when you want a quick (and dirty) weld in the next 5 min. In my opinion, stick takes the least proficiency, time, equipment, and cost to make <1/4" metal stick together. If you want the just-in-case-I-want-more setup, this is a good price on a TIG welder that will allow you to build bridges or space shuttle parts: https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/tls/5422527720.html Todd On 2/2/2016 10:06 AM, David Leonard wrote: > I have a number of small welding projects around the home and hangar > that are starting to accumulate. I am thinking about getting one of > those $100 welders from Harbor Freight but I have almost no welding > experience. There is plenty of info on the web but I thought I would > put the question to my rotary friends. > > Given that I just want to be able to do occasional projects around the > home and airplane, what type of welding equipment would be best for me > and what do you consider the minimum power level that is acceptable? > I will skip the desire to do anythng with aluminum. I am thinking > that Arc or Flux Core would be easiest. I tried to weld with > auto-feed MIG and I just couldnt keep up with the wire. Also, most of > the airplane projects are too difficult to keep any gas bubble in > place. > > Thoughts? > > David Leonard > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > . >