X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Bobby J. Hughes" Received: from [207.91.159.28] (HELO barracuda.qnsi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTP id 8375527 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 19:10:06 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.91.159.28; envelope-from=btv1==84181d54562==bhughes@qnsi.net X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1454458158-0276451c8014d220001-fw4j19 Received: from mail.qnsi.net ([10.0.0.5]) by barracuda.qnsi.net with ESMTP id 7NRoFqMIWaPXCM6N for ; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 18:09:18 -0600 (CST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: bhughes@qnsi.net Received: from 10.0.0.5 ([10.0.0.5]) by qnsi-mail.qnsi.net ([10.0.0.5]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 00:09:18 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-7D53B4D8-A628-416E-8CC3-78C21C81F7AF"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Welding Equipment Recomendations Message-ID: X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Welding Equipment Recomendations thread-index: AdFeFx/rbcNIJPQbQnG93Cc97ID+eA== thread-topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Welding Equipment Recomendations Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 19:09:17 -0500 References: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" In-Reply-To: X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.0.0.5] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1454458158 X-Barracuda-URL: http://10.0.0.4:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at qnsi.net X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 1.32 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=1.32 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1000.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE_2, WEIRD_PORT X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.26690 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.50 WEIRD_PORT URI: Uses non-standard port number for HTTP 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.00 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars 0.82 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE_2 RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars --Apple-Mail-7D53B4D8-A628-416E-8CC3-78C21C81F7AF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the Everlasting 200DV dual voltage model. I think it's s good value a= nd portable. Once you start building skills you will want to work aluminum.=20= Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Charlie England w= rote: >=20 > I should have mentioned that all the DC TIG & DC/AC TIG machines will also= do Stick welding. >=20 >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Charlie England wrote: >> Several years ago I decided to equip my shop with a good welder (I had no= experience, & still have little) before I retired & couldn't afford to buy o= ne. I thought about one of the cheap Chinese models, but decided to spend th= e money on a used Miller Dynasty that does DC & AC stick, DC/AC TIG, and eve= rything except 'pulse' built in. Nice welder, but guess what; they're all ma= de in China now.=20 >>=20 >> A friend bought a Chinese model (I think it was=20 >> http://www.everlastgenerators.com/product/multi-process-tig-stick-plasma/= powerpro-205s=20 >>=20 >> Note that it does *everything*, including pulse, and it does plasma cutti= ng to boot. The learning curve for him was a lot shorter than for me. He got= a few pointers from my neighbor (who welded my motor mount for me), and wat= ched a lot of youtube videos.=20 >> http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/ >>=20 >> He's now almost finished with a scratchbuilt Cub fuselage & tailfeathers.= I'd love to sell my Miller & buy what he's got. If you really want less cap= ability, there are lots of DC only TIG models that are really inexpensive. I= wouldn't limit my search to Everlast, but as an example, here's what's avai= lable: >> http://www.everlastgenerators.com/catalog-tig?field_voltage_phase_value=3D= All&field_tig_inverter_type_value=3DAll&field_memory_value=3DAll&field_outpu= t_type_value=3DAll&field_foot_pedal_value=3DAll&field_stick_function_value=3D= All&field_6010_cellulose_capable_value=3DAll&field_stick_hot_start_type_valu= e=3DAll&field_tig_start_type_list_value=3DAll&field_tig_pulse_value=3DAll&fi= eld_remote_control_value=3DAll&field_igbt_type_value=3DAll&field_max_amps_fo= r_filters__value=3DAll >> You can probably beat the prices shown by checking Amazon & ebay. My budd= y bought his through Amazon Prime and shipping was free, just like everythin= g else. >>=20 >> When I was doing my research, some of the 'old hands' on welding forums w= arned about service on the Chinese stuff, but now it's looking like the 'big= 3' American brands are having the same issues; no parts/slow service. >>=20 >> Most of the inverter style welders will run on 120 or 240, with somewhat r= educed capacity on 120V. And you can carry them like a briefcase, instead of= with a hand truck or furniture dolly. :-) >>=20 >> Charlie >>=20 >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:06 PM, David Leonard wrote: >>> I have a number of small welding projects around the home and hangar >>> that are starting to accumulate. I am thinking about getting one of >>> those $100 welders from Harbor Freight but I have almost no welding >>> experience. There is plenty of info on the web but I thought I would >>> put the question to my rotary friends. >>>=20 >>> Given that I just want to be able to do occasional projects around the >>> home and airplane, what type of welding equipment would be best for me >>> and what do you consider the minimum power level that is acceptable? >>> I will skip the desire to do anythng with aluminum. I am thinking >>> that Arc or Flux Core would be easiest. I tried to weld with >>> auto-feed MIG and I just couldnt keep up with the wire. Also, most of >>> the airplane projects are too difficult to keep any gas bubble in >>> place. >>>=20 >>> Thoughts? >>>=20 >>> David Leonard >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Li= st.html >=20 --Apple-Mail-7D53B4D8-A628-416E-8CC3-78C21C81F7AF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PG1ldGEgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iY29udGVudC10eXBlIiBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0 L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9dXRmLTgiPjwvaGVhZD48Ym9keSBkaXI9ImF1dG8iPjxkaXY+SSBoYXZl IHRoZSBFdmVybGFzdGluZyAyMDBEViBkdWFsIHZvbHRhZ2UgbW9kZWwuIEkgdGhpbmsgaXQncyBz IGdvb2QgdmFsdWUgYW5kIHBvcnRhYmxlLiBPbmNlIHlvdSBzdGFydCBidWlsZGluZyBza2lsbHMg eW91IHdpbGwgd2FudCB0byB3b3JrIGFsdW1pbnVtLiZuYnNwOzwvZGl2PjxkaXYgaWQ9IkFwcGxl TWFpbFNpZ25hdHVyZSI+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXYgaWQ9IkFwcGxlTWFpbFNpZ25hdHVyZSI+Qm9i Ynk8L2Rpdj48ZGl2IGlkPSJBcHBsZU1haWxTaWduYXR1cmUiPjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2IGlkPSJB 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