X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Charlie England" Received: from mail-yk0-f182.google.com ([209.85.160.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTPS id 8375090 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:59:22 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.182; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-yk0-f182.google.com with SMTP id u9so689385ykd.1 for ; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 12:59:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3N8usKODdEKAFhaky0bSlt6Aga//bZjGlzB6rPR5bDE=; b=WKZQq1mO9oFRXbhRbL1Ym9ciYz+Ubeh5qYUqMKkly1SRTm3qW1adYo3cOgOWsHm1B6 pNGKXBqIQ9suT/EMlT1Zw0OQaunHrMlKF8S8cx+uxqM5Jrfsr3ijqUnxwLcAl4Iypjta xaCdAHDlAvr9EInUiljUQq3ABr52FRRM/wwBknzkEwwpHBNcIh71xmKV3Qw0WlNGbwlF b+VNEKg64pVRKDAWDnr91qyVS1KxC20p1O7NVJ+fu9bIWTDrNE6v/t0zrsJ+SRnf+cZ1 hMwbGYDxtCAWUyw1G4QKkXy1tvp9VvXrXdYEJGZjXuOck7QQ/tx+NP1X0H/npZ86zTvq 6JBQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3N8usKODdEKAFhaky0bSlt6Aga//bZjGlzB6rPR5bDE=; b=ZevJwuvgQfoyGAjh4anjsXXM4bf5j8GdEsmtChpBM76SKGo0gdNCDPiHF5ZsNMyT/l GOFHf7qZ2ZVPxM8piEBlEEJfqBqLBaOkiHe3P6AD7UEteaqvw4wS5o91MMnjJWFF8+Bc utx0oHgtA5Wu2K83lwtFW+2p4fEqvoMs5fKX01oX1lkp790+LlEy7MruC+MtAdfJyTNl qXbsDL+6NpQRPaaJPlCKUB+YM5LwSrWh24lqaGkJBobXbZgfHN7QFCr1BVosDH0XDOCd S4/AWAOArQmudEn+Op9MXcAKbtC2GcsdnnYo1gC1cqS7rudpjCk/27V8gALZKUpuDUxS ympw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOT3D+Rgdc1U0W1Efa2oJ9Il1Vbl6mISz/E0VSsYusOPE9CimY17GKct07SllKWhx122MZrvBVyjW+lEbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.37.38.87 with SMTP id m84mr1098291ybm.89.1454446746350; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 12:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.13.211.1 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:59:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:59:06 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Welding Equipment Recomendations To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143b2c0a94126052acfc5d7 --001a1143b2c0a94126052acfc5d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several years ago I decided to equip my shop with a good welder (I had no experience, & still have little) before I retired & couldn't afford to buy one. I thought about one of the cheap Chinese models, but decided to spend the money on a used Miller Dynasty that does DC & AC stick, DC/AC TIG, and everything except 'pulse' built in. Nice welder, but guess what; they're all made in China now. A friend bought a Chinese model (I think it was http://www.everlastgenerators.com/product/multi-process-tig-stick-plasma/po= werpro-205s Note that it does *everything*, including pulse, and it does plasma cutting to boot. The learning curve for him was a lot shorter than for me. He got a few pointers from my neighbor (who welded my motor mount for me), and watched a lot of youtube videos. http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/ He's now almost finished with a scratchbuilt Cub fuselage & tailfeathers. I'd love to sell my Miller & buy what he's got. If you really want less capability, there are lots of DC only TIG models that are really inexpensive. I wouldn't limit my search to Everlast, but as an example, here's what's available: http://www.everlastgenerators.com/catalog-tig?field_voltage_phase_value=3DA= ll&field_tig_inverter_type_value=3DAll&field_memory_value=3DAll&field_outpu= t_type_value=3DAll&field_foot_pedal_value=3DAll&field_stick_function_value= =3DAll&field_6010_cellulose_capable_value=3DAll&field_stick_hot_start_type_= value=3DAll&field_tig_start_type_list_value=3DAll&field_tig_pulse_value=3DA= ll&field_remote_control_value=3DAll&field_igbt_type_value=3DAll&field_max_a= mps_for_filters__value=3DAll You can probably beat the prices shown by checking Amazon & ebay. My buddy bought his through Amazon Prime and shipping was free, just like everything else. When I was doing my research, some of the 'old hands' on welding forums warned about service on the Chinese stuff, but now it's looking like the 'big 3' American brands are having the same issues; no parts/slow service. Most of the inverter style welders will run on 120 or 240, with somewhat reduced capacity on 120V. And you can carry them like a briefcase, instead of with a hand truck or furniture dolly. :-) Charlie On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:06 PM, David Leonard wrote: > I have a number of small welding projects around the home and hangar > that are starting to accumulate. I am thinking about getting one of > those $100 welders from Harbor Freight but I have almost no welding > experience. There is plenty of info on the web but I thought I would > put the question to my rotary friends. > > Given that I just want to be able to do occasional projects around the > home and airplane, what type of welding equipment would be best for me > and what do you consider the minimum power level that is acceptable? > I will skip the desire to do anythng with aluminum. I am thinking > that Arc or Flux Core would be easiest. I tried to weld with > auto-feed MIG and I just couldnt keep up with the wire. Also, most of > the airplane projects are too difficult to keep any gas bubble in > place. > > Thoughts? > > David Leonard > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --001a1143b2c0a94126052acfc5d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Several years ago I decided to equip my shop with a good w= elder (I had no experience, & still have little) before I retired &= couldn't afford to buy one. I thought about one of the cheap Chinese m= odels, but decided to spend the money on a used Miller Dynasty that does DC= & AC stick, DC/AC TIG, and everything except 'pulse' built in.= Nice welder, but guess what; they're all made in China now.=C2=A0
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A friend bought a Chinese model (I think it was=C2=A0
http://www.everlastgenerators.com/product/multi-proce= ss-tig-stick-plasma/powerpro-205s=C2=A0

Note t= hat it does *everything*, including pulse, and it does plasma cutting to bo= ot. The learning curve for him was a lot shorter than for me. He got a few = pointers from my neighbor (who welded my motor mount for me), and watched a= lot of youtube videos.=C2=A0

He's now almost finished with a scratchbuilt Cub fuselage &= ; tailfeathers. I'd love to sell my Miller & buy what he's got.= If you really want less capability, there are lots of DC only TIG models t= hat are really inexpensive. I wouldn't limit my search to Everlast, but= as an example, here's what's available:



On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:06 PM, David Leonard <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
I have a number of small welding projects around the home and= hangar
that are starting to accumulate.=C2=A0 I am thinking about getting one of those $100 welders from Harbor Freight but I have almost no welding
experience.=C2=A0 There is plenty of info on the web but I thought I would<= br> put the question to my rotary friends.

Given that I just want to be able to do occasional projects around the
home and airplane, what type of welding equipment would be best for me
and what do you consider the minimum power level that is acceptable?
I will skip the desire to do anythng with aluminum.=C2=A0 I am thinking
that Arc or Flux Core would be easiest.=C2=A0 I tried to weld with
auto-feed MIG and I just couldnt keep up with the wire.=C2=A0 Also, most of=
the airplane projects are too difficult to keep any gas bubble in
place.

Thoughts?

David Leonard

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