X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: Received: from omr-a003e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.57] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTPS id 8374865 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 14:46:19 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.29.186.57; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.143]) by omr-a003e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A83BB38000A9 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mob02c.mail.aol.com (core-mob02.mail.aol.com [172.27.62.12]) by mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D676A38000083 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:46:02 -0500 (EST) Full-name: Lehanover Message-ID: <49bfdf.74af6fe.43e2617a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:46:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Welding Equipment Recomendations To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_49bfdf.74af6fe.43e2617a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [65.32.224.140] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1454442363; bh=mn8raaANJ27Qke0a4ksKid0EQON7Le9/1/TADiXI+kM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kjDn+QYeSDRhw6cIADQg4wFtpHWSb6mqLzfrnqPmSV+D2OsWfL64aWWmUvoJ0Q6sV AognSh66I1p1hfKe8gD0Q+9T0G3p5mWNzmOe1WaCkj6TbVqI3pnVVhNjYAdV8HFu7N nUU4EO3V5U3dHK9ci6WokkW54g1glsMEhvJWAELo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1ade8f56b1077a0f4c --part1_49bfdf.74af6fe.43e2617a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try to take a course at a local trade school. Best option. I have gas (Oxyacetylene) and a 600 amp Hobart TIG machine. I only use Argon as a shielding gas. I sold my wire welder years ago. Good for building trailers tacking on quarter panels and similar. I like gas welding. Slow and easy. Also brazing and shaping and bending steel parts. Gas welding is the most versatile of all forms. My mother could weld aluminum with paste flux and blue glasses. Wire feeders are difficult to master when starting from scratch. If it runs on 110 volts it is just about a toy welder. Thin steels nearly horizontal only. Takes lots of practice to even get some spot welds going. A stick welder is actually easier to learn the basics on. Use match tip 6013 sticks and build your first trailer. The key is to get an instructor to teach you the many welding systems and how each has its good and bad points. The end game is a big TIG machine where any metal, any thickness can be done. The same machine will also do stick welding AC or DC. Straight or reverse polarity. And the most critical aircraft work. The heat is controlled by a foot pedal and it is a joy to use. Much welding training on the Internet. Lynn E. Hanover In a message dated 2/2/2016 2:06:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: I have a number of small welding projects around the home and hangar that are starting to accumulate. I am thinking about getting one of those $100 welders from Harbor Freight but I have almost no welding experience. There is plenty of info on the web but I thought I would put the question to my rotary friends. Given that I just want to be able to do occasional projects around the home and airplane, what type of welding equipment would be best for me and what do you consider the minimum power level that is acceptable? I will skip the desire to do anything with aluminum. I am thinking that Arc or Flux Core would be easiest. I tried to weld with auto-feed MIG and I just couldn't keep up with the wire. Also, most of the airplane projects are too difficult to keep any gas bubble in place. Thoughts? David Leonard -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --part1_49bfdf.74af6fe.43e2617a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try to take a course at a local trade school. Best option. I have gas= =20 (Oxyacetylene) and a 600 amp Hobart
TIG machine. I only use Argon as a shielding gas. I sold my wire weld= er=20 years ago. Good for building trailers tacking on quarter panels and simila= r. I=20 like gas welding. Slow and easy. Also brazing and shaping and bending stee= l=20 parts. Gas welding is the most versatile of all forms. My mother could wel= d=20 aluminum with paste flux and blue glasses.
 
Wire feeders are difficult to master when starting from scratch. If= it runs=20 on 110 volts it is just about a toy welder. Thin steels nearly horizontal= only.=20 Takes lots of practice to even get some spot welds going. A stick welder= is=20 actually easier to learn the basics on. Use match tip 6013 sticks and buil= d your=20 first trailer.
 
The key is to get an instructor to teach you the many welding systems= and=20 how each has its good and bad points. The end game is a big TIG machine wh= ere=20 any metal, any thickness can be done. The same machine will also do stick= =20 welding AC or DC. Straight or reverse polarity. And the most critical airc= raft=20 work.
The heat is controlled by a foot pedal and it is a joy to use. Much= welding=20 training on the Internet.
 
Lynn E. Hanover 
 
 
In a message dated 2/2/2016 2:06:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
I have a=20 number of small welding projects around the home and hangar
that are= =20 starting to accumulate.  I am thinking about getting one of
thos= e $100=20 welders from Harbor Freight but I have almost no welding
experience.&= nbsp;=20 There is plenty of info on the web but I thought I would
put the ques= tion=20 to my rotary friends.

Given that I just want to be able to do=20 occasional projects around the
home and airplane, what type of weldin= g=20 equipment would be best for me
and what do you consider the minimum= power=20 level that is acceptable?
I will skip the desire to do anything with= =20 aluminum.  I am thinking
that Arc or Flux Core would be easiest.=  =20 I tried to weld with
auto-feed MIG and I just couldn't keep up with= the=20 wire.  Also, most of
the airplane projects are too difficult to= keep=20 any gas bubble in
place.

Thoughts?

David=20 Leonard

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