Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #62345
From: Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 09:16:02 -0600
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Steve,

 

Bobby Hughes suggested that I only test the disable switches at 3000 rpm or above.  So yesterday I tried that.  The secondary acted the same, slightly richer.  The primary caused the engine to cough and choke up a couple of hairballs, go really lean, then come back and run slightly richer just like the secondary.  They both came to a mixture of 11.6-11.7 after the disable.

 

This works the same on both A and B controllers.  I think this means that the EC-2 is working, although it is taking a while to get the decision made to turn on the secondary after it realizes that I have turned the primary off.  This time delay was causing the engine to stop when I ran the test at idle.  The way it acts might be a little disconcerting to a passenger if I tell them I am checking to make sure the engine runs ok….:>)

 

On another note, I took your advice and bought and installed the BR10EIX plugs yesterday after the test.  I found an old plug wrench and ground it down in order to get them installed.  Naturally the wrench was so thin that it cracked on the install.  I doubt that it will hold up to do a change.  I plan to get a wrench and have someone turn it down to fit.

 

I assume that you have already done this.  What dimension did you turn the socket to?  It seems that the opening in the block is one inch but the wrench would need some clearance?  I am way too tight to buy that wrench from Racing Beat for $82 + shipping!   :>)

 

 

Bill


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:36 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening?

 

Bill,

 

Today I spent some time in my plane trying all the permutations and combinations of applying power to the primary injectors, secondary injectors, and grounding EC2 pin 30 with the cold switch.

 

It turns out that my statement in the message below concerning the effect of grounding EC2 pin 30 when cutting power to the secondary injectors when the MAP is below the staging threshold MAP was not correct.  When I did this today, the mixture went slightly richer just like you describe for your system.

 

As a result, my guess is that this behavior is most likely not an indication of a problem to be solved.

 

Steve Boese


From: Steven W. Boese
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:23 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening?

 

Bill,

 

Turning on the cold start switch is intended to give you a much richer mixture when both the primary and secondary injectors are enabled.  So your system is working correctly in this regard.

 

Disabling the secondary injectors with the DPDT switch is intended to both cut the power to the secondary injectors and enable the cold start function (as if the cold switch was turned on).  This should have no effect on the engine at MAP below the staging threshold since the engine would be running on only the primary injectors just like it was before flipping the secondary disable switch. 

Your previous statement:

"With the engine idling at about 1400 rpm, and the mixture at about 14.7, I turned off the secondary and the engine ran a little differently and the mixture went to about 13.0."

is troubling since doing this should have had no effect whatsoever.  Is the mixture change persistent and reproducible?  If the mixture eventually (within a few seconds) returns to the original value, then your system is most likely working correctly in this regard too.

 

Steve Boese

 

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