X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Jeff Whaley" Received: from hub026-NJ-7.exch026.serverdata.net ([206.225.166.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTPS id 8356633 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:41:43 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.225.166.170; envelope-from=jwhaley@datacast.com Received: from MBX026-E1-NJ-2.exch026.domain.local ([10.240.14.52]) by HUB026-NJ-7.exch026.domain.local ([10.240.14.233]) with mapi id 14.03.0266.001; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 07:41:24 -0800 To: Charlie England Subject: RE: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening? Thread-Topic: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening? Thread-Index: AQHRVpabvSpmft91YUOTU5J+F1vBS58MWm7ggAAy+ICAABhaQIABQpHg Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:41:24 +0000 Message-ID: <234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E54A@mbx026-e1-nj-2.exch026.domain.local> References: <56A3A06A.4050808@gmail.com> <234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E1DF@mbx026-e1-nj-2.exch026.domain.local> In-Reply-To: <234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E1DF@mbx026-e1-nj-2.exch026.domain.local> Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [209.87.232.162] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E54Ambx026e1nj2exch_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_005_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E54Ambx026e1nj2exch_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E54Ambx026e1nj2exch_" --_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E54Ambx026e1nj2exch_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill: The answer to your question is the EC2 only cares what the pin 30 state IS,= in conjunction with which injectors are being supplied power plus what you= r MP and RPM are. With the DPDT switches you are always disabling one set of injectors and en= abling Cold Start simultaneously - if they are wired correctly, as per EC2 = manual. If you are below staging, ~1400 rpm and you disable the SEC injectors/enabl= e CS, nothing should happen because the EC2 knows you have turned OFF power= to the SEC and your MP is low. If you are below staging, ~1400 rpm and you independently enable CS, PRI an= d SEC injectors should deliver fuel because EC2 knows both have power ON an= d your MP is low - this is Cold Start region. There really is no reason to go above staging (high MP/RPM region) to prove= the CS feature in conjunction with MP, RPM and INJ power are working corre= ctly. Jeff From: Bill Bradburry Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening? Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:07:58 -0600 To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' [Message Header] [Undecoded Message] Steve, Ok, when you turn on the disable switches, they ground the pin 30 input on= the EC-2 to the case of the EC-2. When you turn on cold start, you ground= the pin 30 to the case. How the heck does the EC-2 know the difference so= that it can act differently??? Bill This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the a= ddressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauth= orized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message= in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal= records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. --_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A48F0E54Ambx026e1nj2exch_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bill:

The answer to your que= stion is the EC2 only cares what the pin 30 state IS, in conjunction with w= hich injectors are being supplied power plus what your MP and RPM are.=

With the DPDT switches= you are always disabling one set of injectors and enabling Cold Start simu= ltaneously – if they are wired correctly, as per EC2 manual.

If you are below stagi= ng, ~1400 rpm and you disable the SEC injectors/enable CS, nothing should h= appen because the EC2 knows you have turned OFF power to the SEC and your M= P is low.

If you are below stagi= ng, ~1400 rpm and you independently enable CS, PRI and SEC injectors should= deliver fuel because EC2 knows both have power ON and your MP is low ̵= 1; this is Cold Start region.

There really is no rea= son to go above staging (high MP/RPM region) to prove the CS feature in con= junction with MP, RPM and INJ power are working correctly.

Jeff

From:	Bill Bradburry <= flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject:=	RE: [FlyRotary] Re:= parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening?<= /p>
Date:	Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15= :07:58 -0600
To:	'Rotary motors in a= ircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

<= br>

Steve, Ok, when you turn on the disable switc= hes, they ground the pin 30 input on the EC-2 to the case of the EC-2. When you turn on cold start, you ground the pin 30 to the case= . How the heck does the EC-2 know the difference so that it can act d= ifferently???

Bill

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