X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Bill Bradburry" Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.19] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTPS id 8353671 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:44:31 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.19; envelope-from=bbradburry@verizon.net Received: from Desktop ([173.71.14.135]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0O1I000KXJLONL60@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 08:44:12 -0600 (CST) X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=WpDWSorv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=YsSROtz1JO3+GnD2bqMDlQ==:117 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=7aQ_Q-yQQ-AA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=tiB57yRfSYfsDAJl17QA:9 a=EpnCl2reRbAhAi49:21 a=m__0bFi76Y2ckMph:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=gy139AekQ7BfRwDXODMA:9 a=dFHporPmkKeyjYW7:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-reply-to: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening? Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 08:44:19 -0600 Message-id: <7679167F6F9F4B52BAF2A4743D0B3767@Desktop> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01D1574C.94E08C50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AdFXOcpYzh/E3dZLQvWl3Ej2XuCmfAAREdmg X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D1574C.94E08C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve and Tracy, The injectors are all four the yellow injectors, 450 CC, I think. The EC-2 was in Mode 0 when I tested it yesterday. No, unfortunately, I have not gotten the signal recording setup going. Good Luck with the slicing and dicing, Tracy. Is this a second hip or a redo of the first? Bill _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:29 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening? Bill, Are the primary and secondary injectors the same flow rating? If not how different are they? Did you get the signal recording setup working? That would tell you what is going on. Steve Boese RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2 _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Bill Bradburry Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:43 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening? I was afraid this would happen. I got the new injector disable switches replaced today and while I was replacing them, I verified that both primary and secondary switches take pin 30 on the EC-2 to ground, so my wiring now seems to be correct. But unfortunately I also verified that the cold start action does not turn on both sets of injectors. My engine operates as I described and not as Tracy says it should. With the engine idling at about 1400 rpm, and the mixture at about 14.7, I turned off the secondary and the engine ran a little differently and the mixture went to about 13.0. When I turned off the primary, the engine died unless I immediately turned it back on. I normally shut the engine down by first turning off the power to the injectors and that is just the way it acts. I then ran the engine up to 22 inches and turned the primary off and the engine ran just a little differently but made no effort to shut down. I don't have much in the way of readings yet at that power because it is too hard to hold the plane with just brakes. Apparently the cold start system in my EC-2 is not working the way it should. I need to get this repaired but with Tracy out of commission, I don't know how to affect that. I suppose it is not too much of an emergency because this has been going on for a long time. :>( I will try to get some better data by coarsening the prop so I can hold it better. I just need to get it above 20 inches and 4000 rpm to get it into that range and hold it for at least a takeoff amount of time. Any ideas on how to get the EM-2 repaired? How long will Tracy be impaired? Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D1574C.94E08C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Steve and = Tracy,

 

The injectors are all four the = yellow injectors, 450 CC, I think.  The EC-2 was in Mode 0 when I tested = it yesterday.

No, unfortunately, I have not = gotten the signal recording setup going.

 

Good Luck with the slicing and = dicing, Tracy.  = Is this a second hip or a redo of the first?

 

Bill

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Monday, January 25, = 2016 12:29 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be = happening?

 

Bill,

 

Are the = primary and secondary injectors the same flow rating?  If not how different are = they?

 

Did you get = the signal recording setup working?  That would tell you what is going = on.

 

 

Steve Boese

RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, = 2016 10:43 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening?

 

I was afraid = this would happen…

 

I got the new = injector disable switches replaced today and while I was replacing them, I = verified that both primary and secondary switches take pin 30 on the EC-2 to ground, = so my wiring now seems to be correct.

But = unfortunately I also verified that the cold start action does not turn on both sets of injectors.  My engine operates as I described and not as Tracy says it = should.

 

With the engine = idling at about 1400 rpm, and the mixture at about 14.7, I turned off the = secondary and the engine ran a little differently and the mixture went to about = 13.0.  When I turned off the primary, the engine died unless I immediately = turned it back on.  I normally shut the engine down by first turning off the = power to the injectors and that is just the way it acts.

 

I then ran the = engine up to 22 inches and turned the primary off and the engine ran just a little differently but made no effort to shut down.  I don’t have = much in the way of readings yet at that power because it is too hard to hold the = plane with just brakes.

 

Apparently the = cold start system in my EC-2 is not working the way it should.  I need to get = this repaired but with Tracy out of commission, I don’t know how to affect that.  I = suppose it is not too much of an emergency because this has been going on for a long time.  :>(

 

I will try to = get some better data by coarsening the prop so I can hold it better.  I just = need to get it above 20 inches and 4000 rpm to get it into that range and = hold it for at least a takeoff amount of time.

 

Any ideas on how = to get the EM-2 repaired?  How long will Tracy be impaired?

 

Bill =

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