Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #62273
From: David Leonard <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Scavenge Pump vs Custom Oil Pan
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:56:52 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Charlie,

With a scavenge I could make a separate sump for gear box oil.  The RD units require full pressure without a restrictor, but there are pumps that will do the trick although they would probably require a pressure regulator.

Dave

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
5) How would a scavenge pump allow different oil in the gear box? Unless you plan on an extra high pressure pump to supply the sleeve bearing...

The question does bring up one of my own; is/was there a recommendation for a restricter in the supply line to the gearbox? I have a vague memory that I'm not at all sure is real.

Charlie

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:11 AM, David Leonard <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi All,

I have decided to install an oil scavenge system to return the oil from Tracy's gear box and perhaps from my turbo as well.  I am really getting tired of all the oil getting all over everything.  It clearly seems to be coming from the area between the RD1B and engine, which means that it is probably coming past the RD1B oil seal.  Tracy calls for a nice big line and downhill only run of the oil to a point that is higher than the oil level in the sump.  However, there is precious little elevation drop and I have not been able to achieve those requirements with a gravity only system.  If I run the oil level very low in the sump the problem is improved, but I think it is time for a better solution.

I am considering either a custom oil pan that allows for a deeper drop of the oil, or a scavenge pump.

The benefit of the custom oil pan is that it can be an improvement in weight over the stock pan, and requires no moving parts or power and is unlikely to fail.  The scavenge pump is nice because it would be an easier installation and will probably be more effective at fixing my solution, though I do worry about adding another possible failure point.

1) Soliciting pinions on the decision between Scavenge pump and custom oil pan.

2) Recommendations on someone who makes custom oil pans and pickups?

3) If I choose a pump, does that solution require a tank or can the drain lines be connected directly to the pump?  This would create a suction on the outlets of the RD1B and or the Turbo, does anyone see a problem with that?  Drain oil from the RD1B too fast?  Bad for turbo bearings? 

4) Would I need 2 pumps for redundancy?  I am leaning that way, which means I am leaning more toward custom oil pan.

5) Turbo drain back seem adequate, which means I could use the pump to isolate the Gear Box oil, allowing for different oil there.  Thoughts on this option?

Thanks for the input!

Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY


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