X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Ernest Christley" Received: from nm23-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([216.39.62.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.10) with ESMTPS id 7241050 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:32:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.39.62.70; envelope-from=echristley@att.net Received: from [216.39.60.171] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2014 19:32:06 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.164] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2014 19:32:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2014 19:32:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 353800.86570.bm@omp1030.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 73545 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Oct 2014 19:32:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1414524725; bh=CLKGvIUns3AjvCw79gBGcyov+nFIXVbFpyRpiIpNapk=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rvlExoWOCYnxJOgIS9GJfk/7C7ucUi9Mkd8Xkq6rGPzwIFcw+ZcAIln6g046Cc/QMwmgT6LgRtmxiZl+5rxz9Zm4zUL7LsW7XiVChUbCYhXY04pFflc5weY2Tzny3P0fFK3blXkpy+mgaZUD0yLBRTA0g4m7TmmqakSMJhsamUg= X-YMail-OSG: q2VfRucVM1mTC66L2cQWCv_uMJ2fiHrWFXd3.0WLM.Esl9S 1Ob6JnbLdenqR8YKOSVm78j8g.KNkdyd5ECG9tbWRuMUqTGg3x9ajfuyQYgZ Cg00ZLwUBbhaOdqGPMhSywxf24_yYWWoFSQ7x8THJ0aT9jlUaIDSEk85nPxN u6UF_JZ2zjzH_b1GLUx.lp7CNnXr4JJhCAG23kEOYyFOPmknjat6ebZY2LVR Qqf3sG93SfbdOvwXQJp_ntwAV6NfndzmYg9gEK4OK4c0QB5FXYeYNbWf9rGf BwV55xDLaViEZEI7kpIEdP4CiKslfvxopZ1Y.TOASE8Nl_UyOcjPf6bcyPIY QTfImttPiNERI2rmBwwF3RIk.d4ySpacpuasAzpEMu9RUCYY.yh81T39aXSe mN58WSDW.ntzsdHFyVksnk2xYlj1I9UagXdvxE.Jp6DfcCQlRB8.YcJTWPMg .gLhRL.._zXQGjuHhbQRasSE1jbLY_tmV2KDuYw0ODOB7ZErqcdu.RcRMaKI o86zDQ1KhtLIDa1cRGlulZf4laZGHGoaE Received: from [70.39.176.76] by web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:32:05 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,CgoKCgoKPk9uIHRoZSBzdWJqZWN0IG9mIGJhY2t1cCBmdWVsIHN3aXRjaGluZzogSWYgeW91IGhhdmUgYSBnYW5nZWQgbWVjaGFuaWNhbCB2YWx2ZSwgd2h5IGJvdGhlciB3aXRoIHRoZSBlbGVjdHJpYyBvbmU_IDotKQoKVHdvIGV4cGVuc2l2ZSB0aHJlZS13YXkgc3dpdGNoZXMgdnMgYSBzaW5nbGUgb24tb2ZmIHZhbHZlLiAgQWZ0ZXIgc2VuZGluZyB0aGF0IGxhc3QgZW1haWwsIEkgcmVhbGl6ZWQgaXQgd2FzIHBvaW50bGVzcyB0byBtYWtlIGEgY3Jvc3NvdmVyIGZvciByZXR1cm4gc2lkZS4gIEhlcmUgaXMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.733 References: Message-ID: <1414524725.29062.YahooMailNeo@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:32:05 -0700 Reply-To: Ernest Christley Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: electric fuel selector valves To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2017413661-1314049220-1414524725=:29062" --2017413661-1314049220-1414524725=:29062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >On the subject of backup fuel switching: If you have a ganged mechanical valve, why bother with the electric one? :-) Two expensive three-way switches vs a single on-off valve. After sending that last email, I realized it was pointless to make a crossover for return side. Here is my analysis: You're flying along and at some point the electronic fuel goes tits up. It is now stuck on one tank. You won't know until you go to switch. You can: A) Do nothing. The fuel will continue to pull from the one tank. This would be the sensible option if you're close to landing, or if the tank has plenty of fuel. B) Open the crossover valve. This effectively tees the fuel supply lines. This would make sense if the active tank was extremely low. The high, inactive tank should now flow fuel into the low one. The return line will still be routed to the low tank, also filling it back up somewhat. It will not be possible to overfill the active tank unless you opened the crossover prematurely. IE, open the crossover valve to pull fuel from both tanks and return fuel to the active one. You could even close the crossover once the active is half full. The part seems to be readily available from auto parts stores, so a precautionary landing and replacement should be simple. --2017413661-1314049220-1414524725=:29062 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii




>On the subject of backup fuel switching: If you have a ganged mechanical valve, why bother with the electric one? :-)

Two expensive three-way switches vs a single on-off valve.  After sending that last email, I realized it was pointless to make a crossover for return side.  Here is my analysis:

You're flying along and at some point the electronic fuel goes tits up.  It is now stuck on one tank.  You won't know until you go to switch.  You can:

A) Do nothing.  The fuel will continue to pull from the one tank.  This would be the sensible option if you're close to landing, or if the tank has plenty of fuel.

B) Open the crossover valve.  This effectively tees the fuel supply lines.  This would make sense if the active tank was extremely low.  The high, inactive tank should now flow fuel into the low one.  The return line will still be routed to the low tank, also filling it back up somewhat.  It will not be possible to overfill the active tank unless you opened  the crossover prematurely.  IE, open the crossover valve to pull fuel from both tanks and return fuel to the active one.  You could even close the crossover once the active is half full.

The part seems to be readily available from auto parts stores, so a precautionary landing and replacement should be simple.

 


--2017413661-1314049220-1414524725=:29062--