Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #61147
From: steve Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: power circuit design, was: actual current use by a rotary?
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:55:44 +0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Charlie

I forgot to mention what others had raised.
As I mentioned re: deleting the individual Pri Sec Injector switches. If I do this (delete them) then the separate feeds to Pri and Sec injectors would seem overkill in my mind as I thought the chances of an injector going short circuit was very low.
On the coil side I would prefer to keep Leading and Trailing feeds independant as I don’t have the same faith in the coils not failing short circuit.

Steve

 
On 18 Jul 2014, at 4:24 am, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Thanks, Steve.

Guess I should have known even more options would turn up. :-)

I like the idea, but how did you protect the wires going *to* the switch-breakers? Are they just on a high current bus with the rest of your breakers? If so, it might not work for me, since I'm using automotive fuse panels. Right now, I've planned for multi-pole injector switches wired as shown in the manual (but with a separate pole for each injector), mounted next to Tracy's engine control panel (the coil test switch is there, too).

Charlie


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Steven W. Boese <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:



From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:14 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] power circuit design, was: actual current use by a rotary?
 Charlie,
 
I chose to install switch type circuit breakers, one for the primary injectors and one for the secondary injectors.  I did this because if one injector fails, the backup function requires the corresponding injector of the other rotor to be shut off and then the cold function to be activated.  If there were a power draw that tripped the breaker, the result would already take care of that first step.  The down side is that the cold switch needs to be used for the backup function instead of being taken care of by the second pole of the recommended DPDT injector switch.  This required no additional space on the panel.
 
I did the same thing for the leading and trailing coils but for testing purposes rather than risk mitigation.

Steve Boese
RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2
 
 
 
Well, time for some followup.

My 1st draft for circuit protection looked a lot like what Steve describes (thanks, Steve), with individual fuses for virtually everything, including an individual fuse for each injector and each ignition coil. After ruminating over the actual loads for the injectors & coils, I'm having second thoughts. The GM coil harness I have in hand has a single DC power wire for all four coils that it feeds (obviously isn't a part intended for flight, but included in Tracy's installation manual).

The obvious concern is whether an individual coil or injector failure has a statistically significant risk of taking out the power supply that's fused for the total load. If there's no statistically significant danger, weight & complexity could be reduced by feeding the coils and injectors as groups.

So, is there any consensus on how to handle injector & coil wiring? IIRC, there have been some coil failures in flight; were those planes wired with a single fuse/breaker protecting all the coils, or with individual fuses/breakers for each coil? What about the injectors?

Any failure modes I'm missing? (other than a dead short on a supply wire, of course)

Thanks,

Charlie






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