X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com ([209.85.192.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6569424 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:33:39 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.180; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id p10so72412pdj.25 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nEarJ2C2lGvPOCI09YgBF3FCgcyOQfuk3kuatGuE0is=; b=EGFZt1SWvdC1gb5jy9SLIQes1eI9YbSqs08NpRQ30G0gzsryLI5xAHnCKNUGf0D7Gg anePd2PVoYUGdHdoMqAbzvijp/xY1yBDvkNB8DMcc9bAJONN6UfcrfAOxX5amUGnuOnm mjkQosQcX4SNsu1wV6jtL8mmRLnmljar50f7Uk453Wkaqb7uDN5gYVfiy5RCQD8XYnnG KR+Pl7rh18PrJpcW02ckpGxYMoajMF4SLIOe9e10smAAbxv4Ast9CJrsGLOs7pP2V0U6 VsRvWSYhGpa1HIIZo4pWKG0ppl82tfaZEuNuLFjL4uByDsxuKeUKF3mZGhtoT0dmMBR6 Kcsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.87.226 with SMTP id bb2mr1742002pbb.147.1383085983453; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.169 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:33:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:33:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Wrong turbo, maybe better this try From: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6741eabcdb0204e9e8cc2b --047d7b6741eabcdb0204e9e8cc2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You are right Scott, that is a much better turbo, though I doubt you were experiencing compressor stall at power settings you would want to use on the ground. I also fly with the TO4E-50, but have used the 60-1 in the past with good success. And yes, your turbine housing should be as big as you can reasonably fit. Dave Leonard On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Scott Emery wrote: > > > > > Here is a pic of my 13BT powered RV-8. I've already blown & rebuilt the > engine, now I've learned from ground running and forums that the 60-1 turbo > with .81 A/R housing was not good in 2 ways: the compressor was too large > and the turbine housing too small. The resultant increase in exhaust Back > pressure rising too rapidly with boost pressure. This held back any > hoped-for power gain. Also, the compressor seems to have been on the verge > of stall, with fluctuating boost pressure during tethered power testing. > The pictured TO-4E has a 50 trim compressor & 1.30 A/R turbine house. I > did run it briefly before I had to return to work, it ran very lean. I'll > be reprogramming the EC-2 during the next run. This forum & Ross Farnham > over on the Vansairforce were big helps getting me researching in the right > direction. > Possible future intercooler location is along the Charge Air pipe on the > left side. The hot jacket water pipe will need to be relocated. > > Sent from my iPhone > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > --047d7b6741eabcdb0204e9e8cc2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are right Scott, that is a much better turbo, though I= doubt you were experiencing compressor stall at power settings you would w= ant to use on the ground. =A0I also fly with the TO4E-50, but have used the= 60-1 in the past with good success. =A0And yes, your turbine housing shoul= d be as big as you can reasonably fit.

Dave Leonard


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Scott Emery <sh= ipchief@aol.com> wrote:




Here is a pic of my 13BT powered RV-8. I've already blown & rebuilt= the engine, now I've learned from ground running and forums that the 6= 0-1 turbo with .81 A/R housing was not good in 2 ways: the compressor was t= oo large and the turbine housing too small. The resultant increase in exhau= st Back pressure rising too rapidly with boost pressure. This held back any= hoped-for power gain. Also, the compressor seems to have been on the verge= of stall, with fluctuating boost pressure during tethered power testing. The pictured TO-4E has a 50 trim compressor & 1.30 A/R turbine house. I= did run it briefly before I had to return to work, it ran very lean. I'= ;ll be reprogramming the EC-2 during the next run. This forum & Ross Fa= rnham over on the Vansairforce were big helps getting me researching in the= right direction.
Possible future intercooler location is along the Charge Air pipe on the le= ft side. The hot jacket water pipe will need to be relocated.

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