X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc2-s9.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.83] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6358824 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:17:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.83; envelope-from=instructorbill@msn.com Received: from COL125-W35 ([65.55.34.73]) by col0-omc2-s9.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 2 Jul 2013 12:16:34 -0700 X-TMN: [Qnvo/Sa3Ri2u29i4bYXi4MN6ANaOKVPm] X-Originating-Email: [instructorbill@msn.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: instructorbill@msn.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e615af1a-0b7c-42ff-9ebb-a5a0cbc2e626_" From: William Mason To: flyrotary Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Twin 46mm throttle bodies... I can't seem to find the room Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 12:16:34 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2013 19:16:34.0569 (UTC) FILETIME=[AABD6790:01CE7758] --_e615af1a-0b7c-42ff-9ebb-a5a0cbc2e626_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Tracy=2C Mark=2C and Lynn=2C I will be moving forward with one TB Regards=2C Bill Mason At max power=2C Two 46mm is overkill and one is slightly small but a little= extra boost would make up for it. In cruise it would be fine. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Jul 1=2C 2013=2C at 9:17=2C William Mason wrote= : I bought a pair of arctic cat throttle bodies for the turbo 13b=2C quite im= pressive units really. Here is the problem-- the fuel rail and injectors= make the entire unit far too large to use as-is=2C so the injectors have b= een deleted. I have already lopped off the extra fittings on the tb's that= allow for a fuel pass through=2C I've removed the oil fill tube from the c= enter iron and I plan to move it to the front cover (OMP slot) and I may do= the same to the oil dipstick. Since the cowling slopes gently to the spinner=2C most if not all of my cle= arance problems occur with the front throttle body. I tried moving it rearward on the top side of the engine but either the TPS= gets in the way of the turbo oil outlet or it points to the front rotor ho= using and I wouldn't be able to plug in. I flip it over and it's too tall. If I dangle it off the plug side=2C different issues-- radiator duct outlet= clearance=2C alternator interference or if I raise it to move away from th= e alternator-- I hit the colwing again. I know that other users have had some success using a Ford Mustang TB=2C bu= t what did you do with the IACV circuit? =20 Is one 46mm throttle body too small? I'm considering using just one of the= Arctic Cat's throttle bodies and see how it does. The turbo outlet is 2 i= nches=2C the intercooler in and out also 2 inches and the TB is 46mm or 1.8= 1 inches. Take some more away for the plate and throttle shaft and there i= s even less. Will force feeding this monster help? =20 Please give me your experience with Mustang throttle bodies. Where you use= d a Mustang TB=2C did you choke it down to a smaller tube afterwards? =20 Since I don't have a flow bench-- do I have any options to see how this TB= flows compared to a 2 inch pipe? = --_e615af1a-0b7c-42ff-9ebb-a5a0cbc2e626_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Tracy=2C Mark=2C and Lynn=2C<= /div>

I will be moving forward with one TB

Bill= Mason

At max power=2C Two 46mm is overkill and o= ne is slightly small but a little extra boost would make up for it. = =3BIn cruise it would be fine.

Tracy

Sent from my iPad

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= On Jul 1=2C 2013=2C at 9:17=2C William Mason <=3Binstructorbill@msn.com>= =3B wrote:

I bought a pair of arctic cat thro= ttle bodies for the turbo 13b=2C quite impressive units really. =3B He= re is the problem-- =3Bthe fuel rail and injectors make the entire uni= t far too large to use as-is=2C so the injectors have been deleted. = =3BI have already lopped off the extra fittings on the tb's that allow for = a fuel pass through=2C I've removed the oil fill tube from the center iron = and I plan to move it to the front cover (OMP slot) and I may do the same t= o the oil dipstick.

Since the cowling slo= pes gently to the spinner=2C most if not all of my clearance problems occur= with the front throttle body.

I tried moving it r= earward on the top side of the engine but either the TPS gets in the way of= the turbo oil outlet or it points to the front rotor housing and I wouldn'= t be able to plug in. =3BI flip it over and it's too tall.
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If I dangle it off the plug side=2C different issues-- radiat= or duct outlet clearance=2C alternator interference or if I raise it to mov= e away from the alternator-- I hit the colwing again.

<= div>I know that other users have had some success using a Ford Mustang TB= =2C but what did you do with the IACV circuit? =3B

Is one 46mm throttle body too small? =3B =3BI'm consid= ering using just one of the Arctic Cat's throttle bodies and see how it doe= s. =3BThe turbo outlet is 2 inches=2C the intercooler in and out also = 2 inches and the TB is 46mm or 1.81 inches. =3BTake some more away for= the plate and throttle shaft and there is even less. =3BWill force fe= eding this monster help? =3B

Please give me y= our experience with Mustang throttle bodies. =3B

Where you u= sed a Mustang TB=2C did you choke it down to a smaller tube afterwards? &nb= sp=3B

Since I don't have =3Ba flow bench-- do= I have any options to see how this TB flows compared to a 2 inch pipe?

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