X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from hub026-NJ-2.exch026.serverdata.net ([206.225.166.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6346841 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:00:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.225.166.165; envelope-from=jwhaley@datacast.com Received: from MBX026-E1-NJ-6.exch026.domain.local ([10.240.14.56]) by HUB026-NJ-2.exch026.domain.local ([10.240.14.33]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:59:56 -0700 From: Jeff Whaley To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Blown engine Thread-Topic: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Blown engine Thread-Index: Ac5xDQLmuWWjG5SOSXe02OXsx5RHKw== Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:59:54 +0000 Message-ID: <234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A35F85FBA@mbx026-e1-nj-6.exch026.domain.local> Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [209.87.232.162] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A35F85FBAmbx026e1nj6exch_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_005_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A35F85FBAmbx026e1nj6exch_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A35F85FBAmbx026e1nj6exch_" --_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A35F85FBAmbx026e1nj6exch_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I broke an iron once ... the engine slipped during hoisting and broke the = casting of one outside tension bolt carrier ... not thermal shock. Jeff From: Tracy Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Blown engine Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:00:53 -0600 To: Rotary motors in aircraft [Message Header] [Undecoded Message] FWIW, the thermal shock story is totally bogus. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:44, David Leonard > wrote: Scott, I have never heard of an iron breaking from thermal shock. I routinely mis= treat mine in that manner. Don't forget to take everything Dave Atkins says with a grain of salt. He = has not always been the most straight forward of salesmen. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Scott Emery > wrote: I showed the damaged rotor, rotor housing and front side iron to Dave Atkin= s, the local expert. He thinks my engine suffered FOD but the entry point i= s a mystery. The broken side iron is My fault: thermal shock. The aluminum = rotor housing experienced thermal expansion faster and greater than the sid= e iron because I went to high power before the engine was sufficiently warm= . The alignment dowel was moved outward by the growing aluminum housing and= cracked out the side iron around the dowel, which is also the oil gallery Sent from my iPhone This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the a= ddressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauth= orized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message= in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal= records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. --_000_234B758DE9A64449BEB6BB5D1345CA7A35F85FBAmbx026e1nj6exch_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I broke an iron once …  the engine slippe= d during hoisting and broke the casting of one outside tension bolt carrier= … not thermal shock.

Jeff

 

From:

Tracy <rwstracy@gmail.com>=

Subject:

Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Blown engine=

Date:

Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:00:53 -0600<= /p>

To:

Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary= @lancaironline.net>

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FWIW,  the thermal shock story is = totally bogus. 

 

Tracy 

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On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:44, David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com> wrote:

Scott,

I have never heard of an iron breaking = from thermal shock.  I routinely mistreat mine in that manner.  <= /span>

Don't forget to take everything Dave At= kins says with a grain of salt.  He has not always been the most strai= ght forward of salesmen.

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Scott = Emery <shipchief@aol.= com> wrote:

I showed= the damaged rotor, rotor housing and front side iron to Dave Atkins, the l= ocal expert. He thinks my engine suffered FOD but the entry point is a mystery. The broken side iron is My fault: thermal shock. The a= luminum rotor housing experienced thermal expansion faster and greater than= the side iron because I went to high power before the engine was sufficien= tly warm. The alignment dowel was moved outward by the growing aluminum housing and cracked out the side iro= n around the dowel, which is also the oil gallery

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