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Thanks, Steve I'll see if I can find out more about it. Ideally for my EFISM, I would like to just have the 0- 5 volt input to deal with. An easy mod to the code with just that, but if I have to do the PID control for temps then that simply amounts to too much to incorporate into the code (or color me too lazy {:>)) Ed -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven W. Boese" <SBoese@uwyo.edu> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:53 AM To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress Ed, The upstream sensor on the newer RX8's is called out as an air/fuel sensor as opposed to the downstream sensor which is specified as an O2 sensor. The mark on this upstream sensor is Denso 09M27-4350. The Denso catalog number is 234-9059. It is a four wire sensor with two of the wires apparently for a heater like a heated O2 sensor. The output has a 5V range from what I could find out. So far, I have not been able to find more specifics on this sensor, but it is possible that it is capable of a more useful signal than the rapidly changing Nernstian signal of a conventional O2 sensor when the mixture is stochiometric. The sensor is more expensive than the universal Bosch 11027 O2 sensor, but the Renesis engine I got came with this upstream air/fuel sensor still installed in the exhaust manifold. If others have this sensor also, it is a possibility that it could be used with minimal added expense. Someone with details of the RX8 emission system might be able to shed some light on this. Steve Boese RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2 ________________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Ed Anderson [eanderson@carolina.rr.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:27 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress Thanks for the suggestion, Ernest However, the cost of the wideband sensor kits I found approach (or are more than) the total cost of the EFISM - so not feasible marketing wise. But, who knows - there are a bunch of them out there and I have not done an exhaustive search - yet. Ed -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ernest Christley" <echristley@att.net> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:07 PM To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: Great to hear about your move to the wide band O2 sensor, Tracy. I looked into modifying the EFISM to do the same, but found the PID control supposedly necessary to precisely control the heater element of the wide band sensor to be much more complex than simply extending the voltage range to interpret the WB output. Did you embed any PID control elements in the EC3 for temperature control - or just accepted any small? error associated with temp variations? Ed Ed, look at the LS1 line of Innovate sideband sensors. They have their own computer that controls the heater, and it just puts out a 0-5V corresponding to the F/A mixture. -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13