X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6054218 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:35:22 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=R9WB6KtX c=1 sm=0 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:17 a=AHkS0RJitIMA:10 a=NpJe56vCcEEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=y3lbyMDojYIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=iZODh3qrAAAA:8 a=glYVDZ00AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=krRNuVUzU522toztgi4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=XCwpvLtFMdsA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=ewSevSe5eF7CNOhc:21 a=k3CJhsXpsnjy62OP:21 a=m8hApKzJh1qVuATlY58A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=BHiZEs8pRH51r9N8:21 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 174.110.170.10 Received: from [174.110.170.10] ([174.110.170.10:57451] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6F/A2-22260-66327115; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 04:34:47 +0000 Message-ID: <951C485E189649A0A86E8C099E22C973@EdPC> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets.... Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:34:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CE071D.F656C210" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CE071D.F656C210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, Chris, not being in LE and not wanting to pay the $200 FED tax - = I can't keep a shotgun with less than a 18" barrel. I tried maneuvering = with a long barrel shotgun (overall Length > 40") - such as sticking it = around a corner and didn't like the exposure. So I purchased a SAIGA 20 = gauge (imagine an AK 47 chambered for a 20 gauge shotgun shell) and a = Bullpup conversion kit. Now I have a semi automatic 10 round shotgun = that has a total length 26", it is magazine fed, so no longer period of = time shoving shotgun shells up a tube, just slap in another 10 round = magazine. I know that pumps are generally recommend due to their reliability, but = I sort of like one that spits out a round as quick as you can pull the = trigger - can you say 20 rounds in 30 seconds. That should hold the = Zombies at bay for a spell {:>) Ed From: Chris Barber=20 Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:12 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets.... When the Zombies come, I want more rounds...... I compromise with The 40 cal....oh, and a sawed off shotgun ;-) (uh, not = at work...that one is standard) Hmmmm? The sawed off one may fit nicely under the Velocity's back seat.=20 Chris Sent from my iPhone 5 On Feb 9, 2013, at 20:48, "Mark" wrote: Ed, The way I see it, one 230 grain 45 is equal to two 115 grain 9mm. So, = from that perspective, I'm covered 2 for 1. Mark Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "Ed Anderson" = wrote: Welcome, Mark Well if not "a" 45 ACP, then perhaps two or more {:>)-=20 I would think one of those big wild Texas boars might be the = toughest of the three to stop. Ed From: Mark Steitle=20 Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:31 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets.... Ed, =20 Thanks for the link. I went there but they didn't have any 9mm or = 22 LR, but I did purchase 500 rounds of 230 grain 45 ACP. Perfect for = my new Sig P220 Elite. I would be very comfortable flying over = wilderness country with this by my side. But here in Texas, the biggest = animal I would have to worry about might be a Western Diamondback, a = wild boar or mountain lion. A 45 ACP ought to be able to handle any of = these. Thanks, Mark On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Ed Anderson = wrote: Bullets do rotate in the rifled barrel- so this could be call a = "Rotary" topic{:>) I just got a new sig Sauer P226 DAK (40 cal) and found a 500 rnd = case of ammo at this place for a "reasonable" price: https://www.laxammo.com/ Ed From: Chris Barber=20 Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:51 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets.... Sorry Brother, the department supplies my rounds. I must qualify = on Valentines Day....hmmmm. Also, I carry a Glock 22, 40 cal. Yes. I am = aware of the shortage=20 It's overcast here too and is gonna be at least the next two days, = my days off from rolling and patrolling. Sigh. So tomorrow I will try to = repair my fence so my pup doesn't try to knock-up every bitch in heat in = SE Houston. I can do that in the rain. :-) Yes, I need to fix = him....poor pup.... Chris Sent from my iPhone 5 On Feb 9, 2013, at 17:39, "Mark Steitle" = wrote: Chris, =20 Well, it is low IFR here in Austin-Lockhart today, so the wife = and I went to the shooting range. We would have stayed longer, but in = case you haven't heard, there's a severe shortage of ammo virtually = everywhere. So, tell me Chris, what's the inside skinny on where to buy = 9mm? =20 Mark S. =20 On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Chris Barber = wrote: Thanks Ed. As always, sage advice. Sent from my iPhone 5 On Feb 9, 2013, at 17:23, "Ed Anderson" = wrote: > Great to hear things went well, Chris > > When I decided to leave the pattern, I plotted a course = over as many airfields as I could on the way out to my test area and = climbed as quickly as the power/heat curve permitted. I recall on one = of those early flights, up around 8000 MSL and just in a tight circle = around a turning point with one wing up in the sky and the other pointed = at my turning point - the engine dies. > > Say WHAT? Hastily pulling the wings level, the roar of the = engine thankfully returned - when one wing tank is low on fuel one = should probably not make continuous turns with feeding from the down = wing tank. Switch tanks and went home to change underwear. > > Point is - its easy to get so enthralled by your creation as = to forget some basics {:>) > > Whenever its time to leave the nest, you'll know. Don't = leave until you feel comfortable doing so. > > Ed > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Chris Barber" > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 3:52 PM > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" = > Subject: [FlyRotary] Crickets.... > >> I so dislike when this list goes silent. >> >> Phase One report: After addressing a clogged fuel filter = (ultimately removing it....very small passages in the screen) I flew = again on Thursday. Just a quick hop around the patch. This is sometime = more an issue than it would seem at a towered field with heavy = military/NASA traffic under Class B. >> >> No squawks and nice data log with the latest Dynon 5.1 = update. Along with "Clouds Ahoy" ya get a pretty nice picture off the = flight and parameters. This was only the ninth flight but was more fun = as I seem to be getting things sorted. Still haven't left the pattern = :-) >> >> Chris >> >> Sent from my iPhone 5 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release = Date: 02/07/13 > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: = 02/07/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: = 02/07/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: = 02/07/13 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CE071D.F656C210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, Chris,  not being in LE and not = wanting to=20 pay the $200 FED tax - I can't keep a shotgun with less than a = 18"=20 barrel.  I tried maneuvering with a long barrel shotgun  = (overall=20 Length > 40") - such as sticking it around a corner and didn't like = the=20 exposure.  So I purchased a SAIGA 20 gauge (imagine an AK 47 = chambered for=20 a 20 gauge shotgun shell) and a Bullpup conversion kit.  Now I have = a semi=20 automatic 10 round shotgun that has a total length 26", it is magazine = fed, so=20 no longer period of time shoving shotgun shells up a tube, just slap in = another=20 10 round magazine.
 
I know that pumps are generally recommend due to = their=20 reliability, but I sort of like one that spits out a round as quick as = you can=20 pull the trigger - can you say 20 rounds in 30 seconds.  That = should hold=20 the Zombies at bay for a spell {:>)
 
Ed
 
 

Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:12 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets....

When the Zombies come, I want more rounds......

I compromise with The 40 cal....oh, and a sawed off shotgun ;-) = (uh, not at=20 work...that one is standard)

Hmmmm? The sawed off one may fit nicely under the Velocity's back=20 seat. 

Chris

Sent from my iPhone 5

On Feb 9, 2013, at 20:48, "Mark" <msteitle@gmail.com> = wrote:

Ed,

The way I see it, one 230 grain 45 is equal to two 115 grain 9mm. =  So, from that perspective, I'm covered 2 for 1.

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 9, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t;=20 wrote:

Welcome, Mark
 
Well if not "a" 45 ACP, then perhaps two or = more=20 {:>)-
 
I would think one of those big wild Texas = boars might=20 be the toughest of the three to stop.
 
Ed

Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:31 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets....

Ed, =20

Thanks for the link.  I went there but they didn't have = any 9mm or=20 22 LR, but I did purchase 500 rounds of 230 grain 45 ACP. =  Perfect for=20 my new Sig P220 Elite.  I would be very comfortable flying over = wilderness country with this by my side.  But here in Texas, = the=20 biggest animal I would have to worry about might be a Western = Diamondback, a=20 wild boar or mountain lion.  A 45 ACP ought to be able to = handle any of=20 these.

Thanks,
Mark

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Ed Anderson = <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Bullets do rotate in the rifled barrel- so = this could be call a "Rotary" topic{:>)
 
I just got a new sig Sauer P226 DAK = (40 cal)=20 and found a 500 rnd case of ammo at this place for a "reasonable"=20 price:
 
https://www.laxammo.com/
 
Ed

From: Chris = Barber=20
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:51 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Crickets....

Sorry Brother, the department supplies my rounds. I must = qualify on=20 Valentines Day....hmmmm. Also, I carry a Glock 22, 40 cal. Yes. I = am aware=20 of the shortage 

It's overcast here too and is gonna be at least the next two = days, my=20 days off from rolling and patrolling. Sigh. So tomorrow I will try = to=20 repair my fence so my pup doesn't try to knock-up every bitch in = heat in=20 SE Houston. I can do that in the rain.  :-)  Yes, I need = to fix=20 him....poor pup....

Chris

Sent from my iPhone 5

On Feb 9, 2013, at 17:39, "Mark Steitle" <msteitle@gmail.com>=20 wrote:

Chris, =20

Well, it is low IFR here in Austin-Lockhart today, so the = wife and=20 I went to the shooting range.  We would have stayed longer, = but in=20 case you haven't heard, there's a severe shortage of ammo = virtually=20 everywhere.  So, tell me Chris, what's the inside skinny on = where=20 to buy 9mm?  =20

Mark S.  

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Chris = Barber=20 <cbarber@texasattorney.net> = wrote:
Thanks Ed. As always, sage = advice.

Sent from=20 my iPhone 5

On Feb 9, 2013, at 17:23, "Ed Anderson" = <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> = wrote:

>=20 Great to hear things went well, Chris
>
> When =  I=20 decided to leave the pattern, I plotted a course over as many=20 airfields as I could on the way out to my test area and = climbed as=20 quickly as the power/heat curve permitted.  I recall on = one of=20 those early flights, up around 8000 MSL and just in a tight = circle=20 around a turning point with one wing up in the sky and the = other=20 pointed at my  turning point - the engine = dies.
>
>=20 Say WHAT?  Hastily pulling the wings level, the roar of = the=20 engine thankfully returned - when one wing tank is low on fuel = one=20 should probably not make continuous turns with feeding from = the down=20 wing tank.  Switch tanks and went home to change=20 underwear.
>
> Point is - its easy to get so = enthralled by=20 your creation as to forget some basics {:>)
>
> = Whenever its time to leave the nest, you'll know.  Don't = leave=20 until you feel comfortable doing so.
>
>=20 Ed
>
>=20 --------------------------------------------------
> = From:=20 "Chris Barber" <cbarber@texasattorney.net>
> = Sent:=20 Saturday, February 09, 2013 3:52 PM
> To: "Rotary motors = in=20 aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> = Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Crickets....
>
>> I so dislike when = this=20 list goes silent.
>>
>> Phase One report:=20  After addressing a clogged fuel filter (ultimately = removing=20 it....very small passages in the screen) I flew again on = Thursday.=20 Just a quick hop around the patch. This is sometime more an = issue than=20 it would seem at a towered field with heavy military/NASA = traffic=20 under Class B.
>>
>> No squawks and nice = data log=20 with the latest Dynon 5.1 update. Along with "Clouds Ahoy" ya = get a=20 pretty nice picture off the flight and parameters. This was = only the=20 ninth flight but was more fun as I seem to be getting things = sorted.=20 Still haven't left the pattern :-)
>>
>>=20 Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone = 5
>>=20 --
>> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
>> = Archive and=20 UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.htm= l
>>
>>
>>=20 -----
>> No virus found in this message.
>> = Checked=20 by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: = 2013.0.2897 / Virus=20 Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13
>
>=20 --
> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive = and UnSub:=20   http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.htm= l

--
Homepage:=20  http://www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and = UnSub:=20   http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.htm= l

No virus found in this = message.
Checked=20 by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus = Database:=20 2639/6087 - Release Date:=20 02/07/13


No virus found in = this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2897 = / Virus=20 Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date:=20 02/07/13

No virus found in this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2897 / = Virus=20 Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13

------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CE071D.F656C210--