Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #55611
From: Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Water injection system
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:49:35 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Dave,

 

Try these links http://www.snowperformance.net/products.php?p_cat=319

                         http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=17  

                          http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=23

 

You will need a nozzle and fitting to mate with the ¼” hose. With one 100cc nozzle my intake temp drop to 10-15F above an OAT of 90F. Cooler OAT’s narrow the gap. One nozzle sprayed directly on the intercooler should keep it from getting heat soaked. A second nozzle after the intercooler would help guard against detonation. My pump produces around 230 psi and makes a nice fog. The pump control circuit allows me to arm the system before takeoff. Actually I leave it armed most of the time. I have a flashing LED that turns on with the pump. I then monitor the intake charge temp on takeoff roll. When temps confirm the water injection is working I increase the boost to about 39” MP for climb. I’m using distilled water except during our very short winter. For the winter I’m using windshield fluid for freeze protection. The windshield fluid contains alcohol but I have no intention of fooling around with Tracy’s timing curve.

 

Bobby

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:41 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Water injection system

 

Bobby,

Thanks so much for the help.  So, is that 100cc/min?  Then in a 15 min race I would only use 1.5L of ADI?  If so, I could easly addapt my existing smoke system to double as ADI injection. (It holds about 3 gal).  That would make it really easy!  I would probably use 2 100cc and turn them on manually at 40" - I am only using the system for a handful of races..

 

I didn't see just the nozzles on any on the Snow Performance web site.  Should I just call them?

 

-- 
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net> wrote:

Dave,

 

I’m using an ET150 110V pump with 1/8” NPTF fittings. It’s rated for continuous duty and weights a little over a pound. Snow Performance for nozzles and fittings.  I based the controller on the attached pdf. The LM339 chip will allow you to control up to four different nozzles triggered at different MP sensor voltages.  So you could trigger a 60CC injector at 36 MP and another 60cc at 40 MP etc. I run one 100CC triggered at 32 MP with no intercooler for climb.

 

http://www.clarksol.com/html/prodspecsET50-BPump.cfm

 

http://www.lovehorsepower.com/images/WI/Controller/water_injection_controller_schematic3.jpg

 

 Bobby


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:40 PM


To: Rotary motors in aircraft

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] Re: GSL393/74028 Fuel Pump Replacement/Fuel Leak

 

 

 

 

On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:42 PM, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

  It will be difficult to burn more than about 20 gal per with a rotary.  Maybe as much as 30 gal with a turbocharged 20b.

 

Bill B

 


 

I was seeing upwards of 30 gph with my turbo 13B while running the pylons at Reno. That would be about 45gph with a turbo 20B.  Course I was running really rich to be sure I avoided detonation..  Am trying to design a water injection system to use more boost and run a little leaner.

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net


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