X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mx2.netapp.com ([216.240.18.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTPS id 4995099 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 26 May 2011 09:40:34 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.240.18.37; envelope-from=echristley@att.net X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,273,1304319600"; d="scan'208";a="550948992" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 26 May 2011 06:39:43 -0700 Received: from [10.62.16.125] (ernestc-laptop.hq.netapp.com [10.62.16.125]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id p4QDdgow009359 for ; Thu, 26 May 2011 06:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DDE581C.1030202@att.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:39:40 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Blower design References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charlie England wrote: > Not to rain too much on the parade of ideas, but I'd be fearful that > anything except a properly engineered blower assembly will consume more > power than it will add to the engine's output. Much better minds than > mine say that one of the reasons small turbines are so inefficient is > excessive leakage past the perimeter of the blades, due to the ratio of > the gap area to the overall area of the turbine. > > Charlie That is the biggest hurdle to overcome. To overcome the problem the shroud must fit VERY tightly. It's a much more complicated manufacturing process, but a significant percentage of the blowers you will find have the top-hat on the impeller blades. Effectively, they have a cast in shroud with 0 clearance. That was the concept I was trying to tag onto with the "thick cylinder with drilled holes" concept drawing.