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Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 15:13:38 -0500
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Gasoline with 10% ethanol
From: Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Jim,

I believe you missed a step.  How do you dispose of the 5 gallons of
alcohol/water you drain off the original 50 gallons... make moonshine out of
it?

I think it would be more realistic to try and find a fuel tank slosh agent
that would be compatible with ethanol, then slosh my tanks with the stuff.
 Then I could pump 10% ethanol mogas into containers and pour it directly
into my a/c and then go fly.

Mark

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Jim Brewer <alpha@concordnc.com> wrote:

> Guys,
> Think about this: EAA Test for Ethanol
>
> HOW TO USE THE TESTER:
>
>   1. Add water precisely to zero level line on percentage alcohol scale on
> side of tester.
>   2. Add fuel to be tested up to the gas level line.
>   3. Cap with thumb or stopper provided, shake vigorously to thoroughly
> mix.
>   4. Let stand 5-10 minutes, read percentage alcohol-in-fuel on scale of
> 0-30% at line separating gasoline and water.
>   5. The gauge on the side of the tube will read percentage of alcohol in
> the tube.
>
> The way this test works is that you add an excess of water to the fuel and
> the alcohol migrates into the water, thus separating from the gasoline
> fraction.  5 gal = 18,927 ml and 10% of that would be 1,892.7 ml of alcohol
> or slightly less than 2 liters.  Rather than going to Nevada why not use
> local gasoline and separate out the ethanol portion, filter the gasoline
> through a filter that would remove any remaining ethanol and use the
> gasoline in the aircraft.  Agitation and decanting of the gasoline off of
> the water portion should be easy to do.  At $4.00 a gallon here on the east
> coast it would be a 40 cent loss over the pump price but would be cheaper
> than 100 LL.  Do in 50 gallon batches as drums are readily available.
> (Flame suit on)
>
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Jim,=A0<div><br></div><div>I believe you missed a step. =A0How do you dispo=
se of the 5 gallons of alcohol/water you drain off the original 50 gallons.=
.. make moonshine out of it?</div><div><br></div><div>I think it would be m=
ore realistic to try and find a fuel tank slosh agent that would be compati=
ble with ethanol, then slosh my tanks with the stuff. =A0Then I could pump =
10% ethanol mogas into containers and pour it directly into my a/c and then=
 go fly. =A0 =A0</div>
<div>=A0</div><div>Mark=A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 13=
, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Jim Brewer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alpha=
@concordnc.com">alpha@concordnc.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;">
Guys,<br>
Think about this: EAA Test for Ethanol<br>
<br>
HOW TO USE THE TESTER:<br>
<br>
 =A0 1. Add water precisely to zero level line on percentage alcohol scale =
on side of tester.<br>
 =A0 2. Add fuel to be tested up to the gas level line.<br>
 =A0 3. Cap with thumb or stopper provided, shake vigorously to thoroughly =
mix.<br>
 =A0 4. Let stand 5-10 minutes, read percentage alcohol-in-fuel on scale of=
 0-30% at line separating gasoline and water.<br>
 =A0 5. The gauge on the side of the tube will read percentage of alcohol i=
n the tube.<br>
<br>
The way this test works is that you add an excess of water to the fuel and =
the alcohol migrates into the water, thus separating from the gasoline frac=
tion. =A05 gal =3D 18,927 ml and 10% of that would be 1,892.7 ml of alcohol=
 or slightly less than 2 liters. =A0Rather than going to Nevada why not use=
 local gasoline and separate out the ethanol portion, filter the gasoline t=
hrough a filter that would remove any remaining ethanol and use the gasolin=
e in the aircraft. =A0Agitation and decanting of the gasoline off of the wa=
ter portion should be easy to do. =A0At $4.00 a gallon here on the east coa=
st it would be a 40 cent loss over the pump price but would be cheaper than=
 100 LL. =A0Do in 50 gallon batches as drums are readily available. =A0 (Fl=
ame suit on)<br>
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