X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTPS id 4982890 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 May 2011 15:38:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.52; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1979682fxm.25 for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:38:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n0PUTXARrZ9RLpjT1q98uys+2ZsKcZjlYvVer/XK/LU=; b=W6DQUYR3vwmzcqy2IeH5xJ8NauczrIhLjVzU/f9OB85gomOwO5FSmFeERmCMZ5jA2d NdHVUwhbarzz3EW2DjEl9OFvuA+m78+AA+h7ynRRBQmiBa6v8ye7kc4agkwh7kmP7NXG xlfdlXWNs591L2yOhods6mq1noVkzfNpdv1J0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Y+1XhGFAsxL5Jh2UGLFEeYp9PCI9Sq+3bwmbidT9OaSqMQLpj5VK80Gi0CpzFANcE3 jCBFP70WpgZzMnQ7tV9hFFHPtVehG2Ip08w4/R500JBKrgsA8S5qvdOyvBN+5WYSIR90 cwstE6CyuA+0wO3/VIGCHSmbvbnJ7biFUcuF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.127.210 with SMTP id h18mr386024fas.77.1305315497961; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.81.66 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:38:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:38:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 100LL in California From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530970936c1804a32d7207 --002354530970936c1804a32d7207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, if you don't blow yourself up in the process, you will now have low octane gas for about $4.50/gallon. Then you'll need a method to transport it to the airport, then pump/pour it into your fuel tanks, again without blowing yourself up. From a risk-analysis perspective, it doesn't wash (pun intended). I just don't see the benefit here. It would almost be easier to fly to Oklahoma whenever I needed fuel for the airplane. Mark On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Ernest Christley wrote: > Bill Schertz wrote: > >> Charlie is right, you can extract the ethanol with water. Best practice >> would be multiple small washings to reduce it to a negligible level, but >> octane would suffer. Also, your price of auto fuel just went up, because you >> are sending some down the drain. >> >> Basically there is a partition coefficient for alcohol between gasoline >> and water. Each time you add water, x% moves to the water. >> >> > Thanks, Bill. That chemistry class in college was a LONG time ago for me. > > So, how long will it be before someone starts selling a system that allows > you to put contaminated gasoline in one end, have it add water and then > centrifugally separate it, let the clean gasoline go out the other end, and > distill the water to reuse it? The ethanol would drive the distillation, > and the left-over could be mailed to the stupid politicians and lobbiest > that keep adulterating our gasoline. ("Here! You like it so much, you can > have it!") > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --002354530970936c1804a32d7207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, if you don't blow yourself up in the process, you will now have l= ow octane gas for about $4.50/gallon. =A0Then you'll need a method to t= ransport it to the airport, then pump/pour it into your fuel tanks, again w= ithout blowing yourself up. =A0From a risk-analysis perspective, it doesn&#= 39;t wash (pun intended). =A0I just don't see the benefit here. =A0It w= ould almost be easier to fly to Oklahoma whenever I needed fuel for the air= plane.

Mark =A0

On Fri, May 13, 2= 011 at 9:42 AM, Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net> wrote:
Bill Schertz wrote:
Charlie is right, you can extract the ethanol with water. Best practice wou= ld be multiple small washings to reduce it to a negligible level, but octan= e would suffer. Also, your price of auto fuel just went up, because you are= sending some down the drain.

Basically there is a partition coefficient for alcohol between gasoline and= water. =A0Each time you add water, x% moves to the water.


Thanks, Bill. =A0That chemistry class in college was a LONG time ago for me= .

So, how long will it be before someone starts selling a system that allows = you to put contaminated gasoline in one end, have it add water and then cen= trifugally separate it, let the clean gasoline go out the other end, and di= still the water to reuse it? =A0The ethanol would drive the distillation, a= nd the left-over could be mailed to the stupid politicians and lobbiest tha= t keep adulterating our gasoline. =A0("Here! =A0You like it so much, y= ou can have it!")


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