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Has anyone looked at methods to get the ethanol back out of gas? I'm thinking there must be some type of process. I know
in making bio-diesel they 'wash' the fluid and then run it through seperators [or let it settle] to get the water back out. It sounds
crazy but would it not be possible to do something similar w/ gas? I'm thinking some kind of little contained setup that a guy
could dump is 5Gal can into, it runs through and seperates off the two. The ethanol could get disposed [I dunno.. in the lawn
mower?] and the gas is off to the plane? IIRC [not tested personally] we are the same in Central Canada in that the higher
octane stuff doesn't have ethanol in it.
Would misting water into gasoline allow it to combine w/ the ethanol [I know it sounds totally crazy :) ] ??
I know water will suspend in Jet fuel, is gasoline the same in that it can/will hold water in suspension? If you know how much
water you put in [vs volume of fuel] and you know the rated ethanol percentage, you can calculate if your getting all the water/ethanol
back out or not.
Just thinking out loud at this point... :)
Jarrett Johnson
www.innovention-tech.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Thomas <glasair2@me.com>
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:03 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 100LL in California
> California controls the ethanol content of the mogas by law.
> There are no retail outlets that offer ethanol-free gas. I don't
> know about this Pure Gas location in Carson, but all marinas, all
> gas stations have ethanol laced gas. I tried in vain to locate a
> source for pure gasoline a year ago and discovered that the only
> way to get any is to be classified as an organization that
> experiments with gasoline formulations. Even if one could get so
> classified with an experimental aircraft, it would be near
> impossible to have a flow rate that anyone would pay any attention
> to.
>
> And speaking of screwed-up politicians, California has a near
> monopoly on that commodity. The state is bankrupt and the
> populace reelected all the same people that got us there last
> November. The "gimmee" crowd rules supreme here.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Thomas
>
> _______________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote:
>
> > Interestingly one of the 3 California sources is a Shell ... you
> might want to check with your closest Shell dealer to see what
> their pumps say and of course test the gas yourself ... up here,
> all Shell stations offer V-Power (91 octane) premium with zero
> ethanol ... it is possible that more of your Shell stations do as
> well but just don't appear on the pure-gas website.
> > Shell's 87 has 10%, 89 has 5% and 91 has 0% - at least here in
> Ontario Canada.
> > Jeff
> >
> > From: "Al Gietzen" <ALVentures@cox.net>
> > Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California
> > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 07:29:13 -0800
> > To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> >
> > The pure-gas.org lists only 3 sources in all of California.
> I've checked the local marinas around San Diego, and the response
> I get is "all fuel in CA contains 10 % ethanol".
> >
> > I've tested the fuel I've been buying at the local Chevron
> stations, and it has 10% ethanol. I've been using that fuel almost
> exclusively for 5 years in my Velocity (EZpoxy tanks), and am not
> aware of any problems sp far. It does cause me some anxiety,
> however; so I'm considering more extensive use of 100LL.
> >
> > Seems ironic - one good reason for using mogas is eliminating
> the lead pollution; which the regulators are trying to achieve;
> and then they regulate the requirement for ethanol in the fuel
> which makes that a bad choice as well. Typical bureaucratic lose-
> lose situation.
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
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