X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net ([68.230.241.145] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTP id 4981715 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 12 May 2011 13:03:47 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.145; envelope-from=glasair2@me.com Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110512170311.GLRW20516.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 13:03:11 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([70.177.24.126]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id ih3A1g00z2jEC4N04h3Ap5; Thu, 12 May 2011 13:03:11 -0400 X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4DCC12CF.009D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=WaGCbHuPhgtz9og5YvEQt9nY3SG+8eTX+2LhCjXX358= c=1 sm=1 a=Gxjypoq2OnYA:10 a=J_oHuY-yf3cA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=f32ykCDtWUuHg+z19x9HKQ==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=EZHvcOeMAAAA:8 a=nUuTZ29dAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=FVma3d02_a4MkyzAHHoA:9 a=xUp-qTgazEDNJFs2i3MA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=AIyG_NLD4fUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=f32ykCDtWUuHg+z19x9HKQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 100LL in California From: Steve Thomas In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:03:10 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5EB24BF1-F5EA-493F-8E10-77DE9952C237@me.com> References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) California controls the ethanol content of the mogas by law. There are = no retail outlets that offer ethanol-free gas. I don't know about this = Pure Gas location in Carson, but all marinas, all gas stations have = ethanol laced gas. I tried in vain to locate a source for pure gasoline = a year ago and discovered that the only way to get any is to be = classified as an organization that experiments with gasoline = formulations. Even if one could get so classified with an experimental = aircraft, it would be near impossible to have a flow rate that anyone = would pay any attention to. =20 And speaking of screwed-up politicians, California has a near monopoly = on that commodity. The state is bankrupt and the populace reelected all = the same people that got us there last November. The "gimmee" crowd = rules supreme here. =20 Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On May 12, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote: > Interestingly one of the 3 California sources is a Shell ... you might = want to check with your closest Shell dealer to see what their pumps say = and of course test the gas yourself ... up here, all Shell stations = offer V-Power (91 octane) premium with zero ethanol ... it is possible = that more of your Shell stations do as well but just don't appear on the = pure-gas website. > Shell's 87 has 10%, 89 has 5% and 91 has 0% - at least here in Ontario = Canada. > Jeff >=20 > From: "Al Gietzen" > Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 07:29:13 -0800 > To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" >=20 > The pure-gas.org lists only 3 sources in all of California. I've = checked the local marinas around San Diego, and the response I get is = "all fuel in CA contains 10 % ethanol". >=20 > I've tested the fuel I've been buying at the local Chevron stations, = and it has 10% ethanol. I've been using that fuel almost exclusively for = 5 years in my Velocity (EZpoxy tanks), and am not aware of any problems = sp far. It does cause me some anxiety, however; so I'm considering more = extensive use of 100LL. >=20 > Seems ironic - one good reason for using mogas is eliminating the lead = pollution; which the regulators are trying to achieve; and then they = regulate the requirement for ethanol in the fuel which makes that a bad = choice as well. Typical bureaucratic lose-lose situation. >=20 > Al >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus = signature database 6116 (20110512) __________ >=20 > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >=20 > http://www.eset.com >=20 >=20 > This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for = the addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. = Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received = this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may = correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. = Thank you. >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html