X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTP id 4980971 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 May 2011 20:21:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.41; envelope-from=Bktrub@aol.com Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p4C0KjPu012568 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 20:20:45 -0400 Received: from Bktrub@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.10c2.21feeb9 (55837) for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 20:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-md01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-md01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.154]) by cia-md06.mx.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD065-d4184dcb27d7be; Wed, 11 May 2011 20:20:41 -0400 Received: from webmail-m102 (webmail-m102.sim.aol.com [64.12.224.156]) by smtprly-md01.mx.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMD016-d4184dcb27d7be; Wed, 11 May 2011 20:20:39 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 20:20:39 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 50.46.100.112 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: bktrub@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDDE518E772450_16F4_4A036_webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33668-STANDARD Received: from 50.46.100.112 by webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.156) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 11 May 2011 20:20:39 -0400 Message-Id: <8CDDE518E6B3D84-16F4-28AEA@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Bktrub@aol.com ----------MB_8CDDE518E772450_16F4_4A036_webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There is a web site you can go to- Puregas.com or something like that - it= will give you a list of gas stations that carry unadulterated gas. Brian Trubee -----Original Message----- From: Michael McMahon To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 3:25 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be cool if you had a choice of ethanol-enhanced and no= n-ethanol at gas stations? They could charge more for non-ethanol if you= like, but reserve at least one pump per station for non-ethanol gas. Wou= ld that be difficult? Perhaps it could even be done on a station by stati= on basis, just through personal contact, at least starting with the indepe= ndent station owners. =20 mike =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Be= half Of Mark Steitle Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:35 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California =20 Bill,=20 =20 You could be right on that. It surely won't hurt to put a little pressure= on the FAA to find/approve an alternative aviation fuel. Personally, I= would be happy if they would make premium auto fuel ethanol free. =20 =20 On another note, with the time it takes for things to work their way throu= gh the court system, it will be years before this gets resolved. The oil= companies can afford to hire the best attorneys. =20 Mark S. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Bill Bradburry = wrote: This may not be all bad. It could cause Swift fuel and that stuff GAMI is= making to be approved. Swift fuel costs about $2/gal and will not go up= and down in price like Avgas. You could pay more for it since it is abou= t 8% more fuel efficient. =20 Bill B From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Be= half Of Mark Steitle Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:30 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] FW: 100LL in California =20 In case any of you missed this... who's next? =20 California Suit Targets 100LL A California environmental group has served notice it will sue more than= 40 suppliers of avgas in the state to force them to stop selling it. TheC= enter for Environmental Healthhas given a legally-required 60 days of noti= ce to all the major oil companies that sell 100LL and the FBOs that pump= it at 25 airports to stop. "The oil and aviation industries need to know= Californians will not tolerate lead pollution that threatens our health= and healthy environments," Michael Green, executive director of CEH, said= in a statement. "We expect the industries to take immediate action to eli= minate pollution that endangers children and families who live, work and= play near airports across the state." CEH cites a 2008 EPA reports that= show avgas is polluting the air and in some cases groundwater around airp= orts with piston traffic. CEH notes that Van Nuys Airport, one of the busiest GA airports in the U.S= ., shows the highest level of lead pollution of more than 3,000 airports= covered in the report. As we've reported and commented on extensively, th= e EPA is now considering its options in dealing with 100LL in response to= a petition from Friends of the Earth. The CEH route is a little more dire= ct. It alleges violations of the California Safe Drinking Water and Toxic= Enforcement Act. Protesters recently staged a small rally outside Santa= Monica Airport complaining about lead pollution. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CDDE518E772450_16F4_4A036_webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
There is a web site you can go to- Puregas.com or something like that= - it will give you a list of gas stations that carry unadulterated gas.
 
Brian Trubee


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael McMahon <afm528@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 3:25 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California

Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be cool if you had= a choice of ethanol-enhanced and non-ethanol at gas stations?  They= could charge more for non-ethanol if you like, but reserve at least one= pump per station for non-ethanol gas.  Would that be difficult? = ; Perhaps it could even be done on a station by station basis, just throug= h personal contact, at least starting with the independent station owners.=
 
mike
 <= /A>
Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:35 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California
 
Bill,
 
You could be right on that.  It surely won't= hurt to put a little pressure on the FAA to find/approve an alternative= aviation fuel.  Personally, I would be happy if they would make prem= ium auto fuel ethanol free. 
 
On another note, with the time it takes for things= to work their way through the court system, it will be years before this= gets resolved.  The oil companies can afford to hire the best&n= bsp;attorneys.
 
Mark S.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Bill Bradburry <= ;bbradburry@bellsouth.net&= gt; wrote:
This may not be all bad.  It could cause Swift fue= l and that stuff GAMI is making to be approved.  Swift fuel costs abo= ut $2/gal and will not go up and down in price like Avgas.  You could= pay more for it since it is about 8% more fuel efficient.
 
Bill B
From:
 
California Suit Targets 100LL
3D"Description:A California environmental group has served notice= it will sue more than 40 suppliers of avgas in the state to force them to= stop selling it. TheCenter for Environmental Healthhas given a legally-required 60 days of notice to all the major oil compa= nies that sell 100LL and the FBOs that pump it at 25 airports to stop. "Th= e oil and aviation industries need to know Californians will not tolerate= lead pollution that threatens our health and healthy environments," Micha= el Green, executive director of CEH, said in a statement. "We expect the= industries to take immediate action to eliminate pollution that endangers= children and families who live, work and play near airports across the st= ate." CEH cites a= 2008 EPA reports that show avgas is polluting the air and= in some cases groundwater around airports with piston traffic.
CEH notes that Van Nuys Airport, one of the busiest GA airports in= the U.S., shows the highest level of lead pollution of more than 3,000 ai= rports covered in the report. As we've reported and commented on extensive= ly, the EPA is now considering its options in dealing with 100LL in respon= se to a petition from Friends of the Earth. The CEH route is a little more= direct. It alleges violations of the California Safe Drinking Water and= Toxic Enforcement Act. Protesters recently staged a small rally outside= Santa Monica Airport complaining about lead pollution.
 
 
 
 
 
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