X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4969288 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 May 2011 16:55:34 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.194; envelope-from=bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net Received: from [98.139.44.98] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 20:55:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.93] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 20:55:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 20:55:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 235768.36820.bm@omp1030.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 59907 invoked from network); 6 May 2011 20:54:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1304715299; bh=tpc6wfFQ3nklbOGWWd6jBEmR/ef4ELVkAXNB4wBSwu8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=A6/OJMgVbbzfifIBmMaN3MWLoD3Gkdw59aQLeHhK0qTX4H8me8riZTvxJJrX5J3fY/kC2znNH6by0dTZBo9/5NQD/Uku7sDttpWBy2ebW1xzNC0Kk2luh1Jl1x1G2sT1g5ae13kR+i4JULDXEjScNUd5bkfxNeBjiZx2+a7dYJc= Received: from acer7fbfa7e2f7 (bryanwinberry@98.88.57.6 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 May 2011 13:54:58 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: OSuEAS2swBAaBd4uKxevNivslbMG7JXpWjAWZVmoYyRm6qcW_W2VUA-- X-YMail-OSG: h7J7yr8VM1l6dP9UgOLg01ZXpsCvpsFH0.GpLkcBcBLnjEH 8P31YnkmwCH9L8q6hxP9_JfSgQJVRXvgBTX53TvGVfe.kILNKYCGBgI3ytHX i7h3WI50k3iJbe7qSn0OZ2O5xiRBh878iBN9mrlbrfidWA1GQr8gbHzrvsUM uhmecuS3QMHtOmq7b1SfBeRfFctaKQBdaxOVVJG2d_KpwL6LiPgklMx9Xuno 07FRu5iDIPv6xsasn99n6N4.JambanKGojiuHBcrVd0qC0TtO08eyeLToFlH _ZzX4OLgkBE618S4eqwZJtG2.hJffTxcRj.x_KPEsJfLs6toiNh2oUpCvT5L twACkhFUn8fVy3QhchkUlw4BZ1dt6wBY7jNHMKPylbNr_eDFXnFMJ7A6aT6. vk2IdW2CI4O.Y48b.o1yMHHAv6rgqsY3ruS1Cld2FRTX7.2TgAZ.JrPYdMzd _cJv.SCVwDd9klzUczzaU3tLIdt9HfSt5AaKRXeA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Bryan Winberry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:58:54 -0400 Message-ID: <67B6B8BEE8FC4349908B01D43E2415E3@acer7fbfa7e2f7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A0_01CC0C0E.E2398E40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwML2Qk/yh4BR78TkqedHFG8PG5YwAAOFOg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01CC0C0E.E2398E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't find it in my notes, but there is a guy in Florida who has a lot of junk parts. Anyone havw his info? BW _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of H & J Johnson Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:51 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) Thanks Bryan, that is a bit steep for just a sample part I think :) I guess I could use that for a starting point to build a ground up engine but I'd prefer not to build an engine part by part. I just had a idea pop in my head and that is the guy in Calgary who is a rotor head [Rx7 specialty??] I'm pretty sure he would have a ruined housing or two.. whether I can deal w/ him or not I dunno. The last time I contacted him he was wanting crazy prices for ruined parts [not scrap value for certain]. I'll have to call and see.. Jarrett Johnson www.innovention-tech.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Winberry Date: Friday, May 6, 2011 2:47 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) > Jarrett, > > Paul at Mazmart said that a new one was around 500! > > So, it looks like we need to find a ruined unit. > > I have one more guy I think I'll call, but doubt he has one. > > Bryan > > > > _____ > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of H & J Johnson > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:39 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) > > > > Bryan, I think for the Iron I'd like to get my hands on one to > keep. If it > has to be a serviceable one.. that would be 'ok', however the > preference[due to cost] would be to get a un-servicable one, > granted its not TOO > warped or something. I would use this for mock up and assembly > testing of > the actual mount housing etc. > > Jarrett Johnson > www.innovention-tech.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bryan Winberry > > Date: Friday, May 6, 2011 11:20 am > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) > > > Unfortunately, Mazmart did not have a third gen front plate. > They > > mighthave had a serviceable one, but probably didn't want to > take > > a chance on not > > seeing it again. If someone else doesn't come up with one, > > perhaps I can > > try again. Jarrett, how long would you need the piece? Or were > > you hoping > > to hang on to it? > > > > Bryan > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > > Behalf Of Kelly Troyer > > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:24 AM > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > The Mistral backplate is for a Dynafocal Type 1 , 30 > degree > > mountring > > > > which is standard for most Lycoming 0-320 & all 0 & I0-360 > engines > > (that I > > > > am aware of))..............The Dynafocal Type 2 , 18 degree > mount > > ring was > > > > designed for a specific 0-320 engine installed in the Twin > > Comanche with > > > > an extra 2.5 inch extended prop hub..............This put the > > engine CG > > ahead > > > > the 30 degree mount focal point of approx 14.25 inches so the > 18 > > degree > > mount was designed to again put the engine CG slightly behind > the > > 18 degree > > > > focal point.............If your Cardinal has the type 2 , 18 > > degree mount > > then it > > > > probably has a 0-320 with the extra pop hub length..........If > not > > maybeCessna > > > > got a good deal on this particular 0-320 engine model back > > then.........Ifby > > > > chance your Cardinal has an 0-360 then all bets are off as I > > haven't heard > > > > of a 0-360 model with the Type 2 , 18 degree > mount............<:) > > > > > > > > As for the 93-95 13BREW front side plate Bryan may have > found > > us an > > > > unserviceable one............We will see............As many of > > these engnes > > that > > > > have been over-heated , over-boosted and over-reved we should be > > able to > > > > come up with a junk one............. > > > > > > > > Thanks Marc, > > > > > > > > Kelly Troyer > > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) > > > > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: Marc Wiese > > To: keltro@att.net > > Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 8:40:02 PM > > Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd > Needed) > > > > Kelly, > > > > I also have a type II dynafocal engine mount (from a Cardinal > RG!).. > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > From: Marc Wiese [cardmarc@charter.net] > > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:37 PM > > To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft'; 'keltro@att.net' > > Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd > Needed) > > > > > > > > I may have one of those 13Brew "front plates", but it is > "useable". > > > > I too would like a dynafocal type II mount...for both of my > > 13Brews and the > > 20B. > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > > Behalf Of Kelly Troyer > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:09 PM > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd > Needed) > > > > > > > > To The Rotary Group, > > > > Yes I know I am a troublemaker (too much computer time > > available with > > my day job) and some of you are probably sick of all my posts > > !!.............."But" with that being said one of our group is > > seriouslyconsidering the development of a "Mistral" type > > > > back-plate to allow the use of a standard "Lycoming" "Dynafocal > > type 1" > > engine mount ring that will be a virtual "Bolt-on" to the > > > > 93-95 13BREW , Cosmo 13B & 20B and the Renesis 13B > > Rotarys.............Several builders and potentials have > indicated > > they > > would be interested in such a back-plate (including > > me)............I have > > one of the few "Mistral" back-plates that ended up in the > > > > hands of experimenters (waited 2 years for it)..........It is > > severely over > > engineered for our use (and overpriced) and has many > > > > features we do not need........... > > > > > > > > If you have followed "Back-plate" string of posts recently > you > > know that > > Jarrett Johnson one our group with aspirations to > > > > install a Cosmo 20B in his project started the discussion first > > about an > > developing an intake manifold for 13B & 20B Rotarys > > > > (which needs to be done also) then I jumped in and said that a > > common engine > > mount design might also be needed and if > > > > you have been reading the posts lately a lot of info has been > > kicked around > > about the various Rotarys and what it will take to "Marry" the > > "Mistral"back-plate with a "RX8 "Renesis" water-pump (with the > > magic of digital > > scanning & CAD) to design > > > > such a back-plate......... > > > > > > > > Those that have been on the Rotary forum for several years > > may remember > > Jarrett posting his trials and tribulations in > > > > building a huge CAM mill (at home).............He is a > commercial > > designerwith the talent and equipment (including foundry) > > > > to pull this off............I have offered my "Mistral" back- > plate > > to be > > scanned (He trying to find someone here in Okla to do > > > > the job) and I also have a "Renesis" front cover to > > scan............What we > > really need now is a 93-95 13BREW front side > > > > housing (unusable condition preferred as long as front side is > > undamaged) to > > put in his hands as this is what the back-plate > > > > will bolt to..............If someone in the group has an > unusable > > 93-95 > > 13BREW front side housing they will donate I will pay > > > > to have it shipped to Jarrett..............You may contact me > off > > the forum > > if you would prefer..........I have no horse in this race > > > > I would just like to see such a product be made available to the > > group.......... > > > > > > > > keltro@att.net > > > > > > > > Kelly Troyer > > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) > > > > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: Kelly Troyer > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 11:45:09 PM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate > > > > Jarrett, > > > > > > > > Will be a good idea to scan both the Mistral and Renesis > > housings.............You really need > > > > a 93-95 13BREW (preferably) or Cosmo 20B front housing to > > scan.............Most of my 13B > > > > engines are 86-91.............My Cosmo 13B is adaptable but > lacks > > some of > > the machined bolt > > > > and stud pads of the 13BREW, Renesis or Cosmo 20B front side > > housing which > > you need > > > > to make allowances for on the redesigned back-plate if you want > it > > to fit > > all three versions of > > > > these engines..................Throw this out to the group and > see if > > someone has a 1993-95 > > > > 13BREW front side hsg (need not be usable) they would donate or > > lend to the > > project......... > > > > > > > > You really need this front side housing in front of > > you......... Even > > with all the scans nothing > > > > beats having the actual hardware............IMHO > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Kelly Troyer > > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) > > > > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: H & J Johnson > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 10:43:03 PM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate > > > > Evening Kelly, so just thought I'd send a note w/ an update. I > did > > find a > > fella in Tulsa who has access to a laser scanner. He's getting > me some > > pricing > > > > on what it would cost to get the job done. I'm thinking it might > > be a good > > idea to get both the Mistral housing as well as a Renisis Front > Cover > > scanned? > > > > I'd like to get an Iron [preferably the side that mates to the > > front cover] > > scanned as well but don't know if you've got one handy [as in, > not > > 'in' an > > engine]. I could always > > > > do it here in time but that might take a bit before I get my > hands > > on one > > that is not in an engine. > > > > > > > > I'll keep you posted as this goes and see where we get. > > > > Jarrett Johnson > > www.innovention-tech.com > > > > -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > -- > > > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01CC0C0E.E2398E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I can’t find it in my notes, = but there is a guy in Florida who has a lot of junk parts.

Anyone havw his = info?

BW

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of H & J Johnson
Sent: Friday, May 06, = 2011 4:51 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed)

 

Thanks Bryan, that is = a bit steep for just a sample part I think :)  I guess I could use that = for a starting point to build a ground up engine but I'd prefer not to build = an engine part by part.

I just had a idea pop in my head and that is the guy in Calgary who is a rotor head [Rx7 = specialty??] I'm pretty sure he would have a ruined housing or two.. whether I can = deal w/ him or not I dunno.

The last time I contacted him he was wanting = crazy prices for ruined parts [not scrap value for certain]. I'll have to call = and see..

Jarrett Johnson
www.innovention-tech.com

----- Original Message = -----

From: = Bryan Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net>

Date: = Friday, May 6, 2011 2:47 pm

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed)

> Jarrett,
>
> Paul at Mazmart said that a new one was around 500!
>
> So, it looks like we need to find a ruined unit.
>
> I have one more guy I think I'll call, but doubt he has one.
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
>  _____ 
>
> From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> Behalf Of H & J Johnson
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:39 PM
> To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) =
>
>
>
> Bryan, I think for the Iron I'd like to get my hands on one to
> keep. If it
> has to be a serviceable one.. that would be 'ok', however the
> preference[due to cost] would be to get a un-servicable one,
> granted its not TOO
> warped or something. I would use this for mock up and assembly
> testing of
> the actual mount housing etc.
>
> Jarrett Johnson
> www.innovention-tech.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Bryan Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net>
>
> Date: Friday, May 6, 2011 11:20 am
>
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) =
>
> > Unfortunately, Mazmart did not have a third gen front = plate. 
> They
> > mighthave had a serviceable one, but probably didn't want to =
> take
> > a chance on not
> > seeing it again.  If someone else doesn't come up with = one,
> > perhaps I can
> > try again.  Jarrett, how long would you need the = piece?  Or were
> > you hoping
> > to hang on to it?
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____ 
> >
> > From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> > Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:24 AM
> > To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd Needed) =
> >
> >
> >
> > Marc,
> >
> >       The Mistral backplate is = for a Dynafocal Type 1 , 30
> degree
> > mountring
> >
> > which is standard for most Lycoming 0-320 & all 0 & = I0-360
> engines
> > (that I
> >
> > am aware of))..............The Dynafocal Type 2 , 18 degree =
> mount
> > ring was
> >
> > designed for a specific 0-320 engine installed in the Twin =
> > Comanche with
> >
> > an extra 2.5 inch extended prop hub..............This put the =
> > engine CG
> > ahead
> >
> > the 30 degree mount focal point  of approx 14.25 inches = so the
> 18
> > degree
> > mount was designed to again put the engine CG slightly behind =
> the
> > 18 degree
> >
> > focal point.............If your Cardinal has the type 2 , 18 =
> > degree  mount
> > then it
> >
> > probably has a 0-320 with the extra pop hub length..........If =
> not
> > maybeCessna
> >
> > got a good deal on this particular 0-320 engine model back =
> > then.........Ifby
> >
> > chance your Cardinal has an 0-360 then all bets are off as I =
> > haven't heard
> >
> > of a 0-360 model with the Type 2 , 18 degree
> mount............<:)
> >
> >
> >
> >     As for the 93-95 13BREW front side = plate Bryan may have
> found
> > us an
> >
> > unserviceable one............We will see............As many of =
> > these engnes
> > that
> >
> > have been over-heated , over-boosted and over-reved we should = be
> > able to
> >
> > come up with a junk one.............
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Marc,
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelly Troyer
> > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
> >
> > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine
> > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
> >
> > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____ 
> >
> > From: Marc Wiese <cardmarc@charter.net>
> > To: keltro@att.net
> > Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 8:40:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd =
> Needed)
> >
> > Kelly,
> >
> > I also have a type II dynafocal engine mount (from a Cardinal =
> RG!)..
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Marc Wiese [cardmarc@charter.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:37 PM
> > To: 'Rotary motors in = aircraft'; 'keltro@att.net'
> > Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd =
> Needed)
> >
> >
> >
> > I may have one of those 13Brew "front plates", but = it is
> "useable".
> >
> > I too would like a dynafocal type II mount...for both of my =
> > 13Brews and the
> > 20B.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> > Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:09 PM
> > To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate (93-95 Front Side Hsd
> Needed)
> >
> >
> >
> > To The Rotary Group,
> >
> >     Yes I know I am a troublemaker (too = much computer time
> > available with
> > my day job) and some of you are probably sick of all my posts =
> > !!.............."But" with that being said one of = our group is
> > seriouslyconsidering the development of a "Mistral" = type
> >
> > back-plate to allow the use of a standard "Lycoming" "Dynafocal
> > type 1"
> > engine mount ring that will be a virtual "Bolt-on" = to the
> >
> > 93-95 13BREW , Cosmo 13B & 20B and the Renesis 13B
> > Rotarys.............Several builders and potentials have
> indicated
> > they
> > would be interested in such a back-plate (including
> > me)............I have
> > one of the few "Mistral" back-plates that ended up = in the
> >
> > hands of experimenters (waited 2 years for it)..........It is =
> > severely over
> > engineered for our use (and overpriced) and has many
> >
> > features we do not need...........
> >
> >
> >
> >    If you have followed "Back-plate" = string of posts recently
> you
> > know that
> > Jarrett Johnson one our group with aspirations to
> >
> > install a Cosmo 20B in his project started the discussion = first
> > about an
> > developing an intake manifold for 13B & 20B Rotarys
> >
> > (which needs to be done also) then I jumped in and said that a =
> > common engine
> > mount design might also be needed and if
> >
> > you have been reading the posts lately a lot of info has been =
> > kicked around
> > about the various Rotarys and what it will take to = "Marry" the
> > "Mistral"back-plate with a "RX8 = "Renesis" water-pump (with the
> > magic of digital
> > scanning & CAD) to design
> >
> > such a back-plate.........
> >
> >
> >
> >     Those that have been on the Rotary = forum for several years
> > may remember
> > Jarrett posting his trials and tribulations in
> >
> > building a huge CAM mill (at home).............He is a
> commercial
> > designerwith the talent and equipment (including foundry)
> >
> > to pull this off............I have offered my = "Mistral" back-
> plate
> > to be
> > scanned (He trying to find someone here in Okla to do
> >
> > the  job) and I also have a "Renesis" front = cover to
> > scan............What we
> > really need now is a 93-95 13BREW front side
> >
> > housing (unusable condition preferred as long as front side is =
> > undamaged) to
> > put in his hands as this is what the back-plate
> >
> > will bolt to..............If someone in the group has an
> unusable
> > 93-95
> > 13BREW front side housing they will donate I will pay
> >
> > to have it shipped to Jarrett..............You may contact me =
> off
> > the forum
> > if you would prefer..........I have no horse in this race
> >
> > I would just like to see such a product be made available to = the
> > group..........
> >
> >
> >
> > keltro@att.net
> >
> >   
> >
> > Kelly Troyer
> > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
> >
> > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine
> > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
> >
> > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____ 
> >
> > From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
> > To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> > Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 11:45:09 PM
> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate
> >
> > Jarrett,
> >
> >
> >
> >    Will be a good idea to scan both the Mistral = and Renesis
> > housings.............You really need
> >
> > a 93-95 13BREW (preferably) or Cosmo 20B front housing to
> > scan.............Most of my 13B
> >
> > engines are 86-91.............My Cosmo 13B is adaptable but =
> lacks
> > some of
> > the machined bolt
> >
> > and stud pads of the 13BREW, Renesis or Cosmo 20B front side =
> > housing which
> > you need
> >
> > to make allowances for on the redesigned back-plate if you = want
> it
> > to fit
> > all three versions of
> >
> > these engines..................Throw this out to the group and =
> see if
> > someone has a 1993-95
> >
> > 13BREW front side hsg (need not be usable) they would donate = or
> > lend to the
> > project.........
> >
> >
> >
> >   You really need this front side housing in front = of
> > you......... Even
> > with all the scans nothing
> >
> > beats having the actual hardware............IMHO
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelly Troyer
> > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
> >
> > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine
> > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
> >
> > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____ 
> >
> > From: H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net>
> > To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> > Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 10:43:03 PM
> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back-plate
> >
> > Evening Kelly, so just thought I'd send a note w/ an update. I =
> did
> > find a
> > fella in Tulsa who has access to a laser scanner. He's getting
> me some
> > pricing
> >
> > on what it would cost to get the job done. I'm thinking it = might
> > be a good
> > idea to get both the Mistral housing as well as a Renisis = Front
> Cover
> > scanned?
> >
> > I'd like to get an Iron [preferably the side that mates to the =
> > front cover]
> > scanned as well but don't know if you've got one handy [as in, =
> not
> > 'in' an
> > engine]. I could always
> >
> > do it here in time but that might take a bit before I get my =
> hands
> > on one
> > that is not in an engine.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll keep you posted as this goes and see where we get.
> >
> > Jarrett Johnson
> > www.innovention-tech.com <http://www.innovention-tech.com/> 
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