X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTP id 4968240 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:26:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.40; envelope-from=wrjjrs@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p45NPn16020224 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:25:49 -0400 Received: from core-dgd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dgd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.229.193]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C4557E00008A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:25:48 -0400 (EDT) References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 'open source' parts X-AOL-IP: 207.183.225.35 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33646-STANDARD Received: from 207.183.225.35 by webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.17) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 05 May 2011 19:25:48 -0400 Message-Id: <8CDD992E6742C32-2184-25DD@webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.183.225.35] Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:25:48 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466381440:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e4dc331fc773c Pat, Try this one www.morristech.com these guys are at the forefront of=20 "part printing". Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Pat Panzera To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 3:40 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 'open source' parts Sand casting aluminum produces a way worse finish than 3D printing. Worse case is that you have to do some mild polishing of the runners, if indeed the fine parallel lines cause any negative anomalies. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM, H & J Johnson =20 wrote: > Hey there Charlie. The technology to produce parts from a substance=20 vs out > of it [ie; additive fabrication rather than subtractive] is pretty=20 new. > There are some forms of accomplishing the job but they are not that=20 cost > effective today [any new technology is this way at the start=20 usually]. The > other limitation I've seen is the quality of surface finish. My main > exposure has been in reading about it and from the articles I've seen=20 there > is generally a secondary machining operation required to get the=20 parts to > dimension. That is all fine on simple parts but something like a=20 manifold > brings new challenges as the interior of the various sections need to=20 be > smoothed out to get clean and consistant airflow. I think the time=20 and cost > of these two areas might preclude us using it at this point, however=20 as > things improve and the tech gets more affordable, this will become=20 the way > things are built in the future. Imagine if everything that was ever=20 built > had a 95% reduction in waste fro m how it's built today.=C2=A0 Your car= =20 would be > alot cheaper to buy, etc etc. > > I love thinking outside the box... [it's how I was able to build my=20 own cnc > mill!] > > Jarrett Johnson > www.innovention-tech.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Charlie England > > Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011 12:53 pm > > Subject: [FlyRotary] 'open source' parts > >> I'm excited to see all the activity on the accessory cover/adapter >> plate, & don't want to divert any attention. But Ed's post several >> days >> ago describing how he made his intake manifold triggered a thought >> that >> might need to go on the shelf for next action. >> >> The original idea that started all this was an intake manifold. My >> intent is to use a very simple manifold similar to Tracy's Otter >> manifold, but for those who need a more complex layout, what about >> this: >> If Jarrett, or anyone else on here, has access to one of the new >> '3D >> printers', doing a manifold should be a piece of cake for anyone >> with >> CAD skills (it ain't me...). Apparently, there are 3D printers >> that can >> use all manner of materials now. I wonder if you could 'grow' an >> aluminum or other light/strong/chemical resistant manifold >> directly in >> the printer. Something similar to the plastic coiled tube >> manifolds on >> new V8's comes to mind. >> >> OK, back under my rock.... >> >> Charlie >> > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: =20 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html