X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.129.170.194] (HELO VIRCOM1.fcdata.private) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTP id 4914306 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:37:50 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::697f:d6aa:b87:78d8]) by FCD-MAIL05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::809d:a06e:5913:452e%15]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:32:42 -0500 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: First start.....again Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: First start.....again Thread-Index: AQHL6EnVlQimCaHTDkqkfPy0Ijf6uJQ4xNS+ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 04:36:11 +0000 Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303574A1C4@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [99.98.105.202] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303574A1C4FCDMAIL06FCDATA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303574A1C4FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am guessing the broken side seal ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = William Wilson [fluffysheap@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:33 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First start.....again Did you happen to find any hint of what is causing your side sealing proble= ms? You are just having all kinds of weird problems and I still think ther= e is some deeper flaw. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Chris Barber > wrote: Bad/bent apex seals and one broken side seal. The apex seals explain the lo= w compression, hard start and rough low power (the roughness had been devel= oping). The side seal explain the oil smoke coming out onto the prop I thin= k. Now I need to find the courage to start testing at higher power. Chris Houston Sent from my iPhone 4 On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:55 PM, "Mark Steitle" > wrote: Chris, That's great news after all the setbacks. What all did you find wrong with= your engine? Mark On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote: Got my engine buttoned up and installed back on the Velocity. Fired it up = yesterday and it started up easily but was serging a bit. Came back out tod= ay, reset everything to factory and she is starting easy as pie and running= smooth as silk. (until I screw something else up). She is currently running as well as she ever has. Starting has always been = a problem but is doing so great right now. As a matter of fact I feel kinda= giddy shutting her down and the immediately starting her again just cuz I = can. I am keeping her below about 4500 rpm (I need to run just under 4500 to get= the map to 22 to set Mode 3) to allow the new apex seals time to set. Rese= t the Hobbs too. I replaced the 3 lb wastegate spring with the weakest one I have; a 1.5 lb = spring. So, should I be offended that someone else found a failure mode with a clog= ged exhaust??? I was beginning to think I had a monopoly. I will gladly pas= s the torch. Chris Keeping thing slow... Sent from my iPhone 4 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303574A1C4FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am guessing the broken side seal

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of William Wilson [fluffysheap@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:33 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First start.....again

Did you happen to find any hint of what is causing your side sealing p= roblems?  You are just having all kinds of weird problems and I still = think there is some deeper flaw.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@= texasattorney.net> wrote:
Bad/bent apex seals and one broken side seal. The apex seals explain t= he low compression, hard start and rough low power (the roughness had been = developing). The side seal explain the oil smoke coming out onto the prop I= think. 

Now I need to find the courage to start testing at higher power. =

Chris
Houston


Sent from my iPhone 4

On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:55 PM, "Mark Steitle" <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris, 

That's great news after all the setbacks.  What all did you find = wrong with your engine?  

Mark 

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasatt= orney.net> wrote:
Got my engine buttoned up and installed back on the Velocity.  Fired i= t up yesterday and it started up easily but was serging a bit. Came back ou= t today, reset everything to factory and she is starting easy as pie and ru= nning smooth as silk. (until I screw something else up).

She is currently running as well as she ever has. Starting has always been = a problem but is doing so great right now. As a matter of fact I feel kinda= giddy shutting her down and the immediately starting her again just cuz I = can.

I am keeping her below about 4500 rpm (I need to run just under 4500 to get= the map to 22 to set Mode 3) to allow the new apex seals time to set. Rese= t the Hobbs too.

I replaced the 3 lb wastegate spring with the weakest one I have; a 1.5 lb = spring.

So, should I be offended that someone else found a failure mode with a clog= ged exhaust??? I was beginning to think I had a monopoly. I will gladly pas= s the torch.

Chris

Keeping thing slow...

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