X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2k) with ESMTP id 4860142 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:54:24 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.96; envelope-from=Bktrub@aol.com Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p1A0rjnR013140 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:53:45 -0500 Received: from Bktrub@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.d5b.65a4b70b (45494) for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-mc08.mx.aol.com (v129.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC081-5bbb4d5337102a9; Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:53:40 -0500 Received: from Webmail-m112 (webmail-m112.sim.aol.com [64.12.232.220]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v129.8) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA032-5bbb4d5337102a9; Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:53:36 -0500 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:53:36 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 74.110.91.118 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: bktrub@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CD96D41560AA86_ED8_FA53_Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Received: from 74.110.91.118 by Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com (64.12.232.220) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:53:36 -0500 Message-Id: <8CD96D41548DCBC-ED8-62F8@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Bktrub@aol.com ----------MB_8CD96D41560AA86_ED8_FA53_Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Ok, so that means that they work essentially the same, except that a full= scale turn in either direction for the mode 1 makes a full scale rich or= lean, whereas the mode 9 is in a much smaller increment, but still propor= tional to the amount the knob is turned, just not as much as in mode 1. And Mode 5 is not used? Thanks, Brian Trubee -----Original Message----- From: Bill Schertz To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 4:29 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9 Almost, I think that the mode 9 adjustment is affected by the amount of the left= or right of center, but is still incremental. i.e. 1 o=E2=80=99clock is= smaller than 3,=20 =20 Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing =20 From: bktrub@aol.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:13 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9 =20 Ok, let me see if I have this correct, or at least can explain my understa= nding. mode 1- you move the program knob it all the way clockwise, push th= e program button, and you can get a full rich mixture. Move it all the wa= y counter-clockwise, push the program button and you get it all the way le= an.=20 =20 Mode 9- move the program knob in the desired direction, push the program= button, and you get an incremental change in the direction of the program= knob movement, regardless of amount of knob movement, just the direction,= ie, lean or rich. It would only move the value a couple of digits on the= programing screen leaner or richer, depending on the direction of know mo= vement. Or alternatively, move the know to 9 oclock and push the program= button to get a small increment of leaning, or 3 oclock for richer. The= amount of adjustment would be dependant on number of program button pushe= s. =20 Is that about the gist of it? =20 Brian Trubee -----Original Message----- From: Bill Schertz To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 2:07 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9 Mode 1 adjusts the mixture in a =E2=80=98bigger=E2=80=99 step. When you pu= t the mixture at 3 o=E2=80=99clock to make it run better, and then set the= program knob to 3 o=E2=80=99clock and push store, it makes a correction= that is supposed to take it all the way to stoichiometric. Doing this in= the air could be hazardous to your drawers, you might take it to a settin= g where the engine quits. =20 Mode 9 is incremental adjustments. setting the program knob rich or lean= and pushing the store button moves it a =E2=80=98little way =E2=80=98 in= the preferred direction, need more =E2=80=93 push again. Much safer for= inflight adjustments. =20 Tracy can probably explain this better, but that is my understanding. =20 Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing =20 From: bktrub@aol.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:25 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9 =20 =20 =20 I think I have uncovered the glitch making my engine run like crap- the so= lid wires on the back of the cold start switch got smooshed together there= by making the engine run too rich all the time. Have not had time to get= into the panel and correct it, but when I run the engine, and put sideway= s pressure on the switch, the engine smooths out. So, I'll check on those= wires when I get up to the airport tomorrow.=20 Hope that this is the cause for my rough running- This engine/airframe com= bination promises to be a real nice combination. =20 Also I have a question- mode 5 is not used, at least in my version (circa= 2006). Is there any use for it in later versions? =20 Another question- mode 9 differs from mode 1 in what respect? I've re-read= the manual but don't see what the difference is. =20 Brian Trubee =20 =20 ----------MB_8CD96D41560AA86_ED8_FA53_Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Ok, so that means that th= ey work essentially the same, except that a full scale turn in either dire= ction for the mode 1 makes a full scale rich or lean, whereas the mode 9= is in a much smaller increment, but still proportional to the amount the= knob is turned, just not as much as in mode 1.
 
And Mode 5 is not used?
 
Thanks,
Brian Trubee



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 4:29 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9

Almost,
I think that the mode 9 adjustment is affected by the amount of the= left or right of center, but is still incremental. i.e. 1 o=E2=80=99clock= is smaller than 3,
 
Bill= Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9
 
Ok, let me see if I have= this correct, or at least can explain my understanding. mode 1- you move= the program knob it all the way clockwise, push the program button, = and you can get a full rich mixture. Move it all the way counter-clockwis= e, push the program button and you get it all the way lean.
 
Mode 9- move the program knob in the desired direction, push the prog= ram button, and you get an incremental change in the direction of the prog= ram knob movement, regardless of amount of knob movement, just the directi= on, ie, lean or rich. It would only move the value a couple of digits on= the programing screen leaner or richer, depending on the direction of kno= w movement. Or alternatively, move the know to 9 oclock and push the progr= am button to get a small increment of leaning, or 3 oclock for richer. The= amount of adjustment would be dependant on number of program button pushe= s.
 
Is that about the gist of it?
 
Brian Trubee



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Schertz <wschertz@co= mcast.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 2:07 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9

Mode 1 adjusts the mixture in a =E2=80=98bigger=E2=80=99 step. When= you put the mixture at 3 o=E2=80=99clock to make it run better, and then= set the program knob to 3 o=E2=80=99clock and push store, it makes a corr= ection that is supposed to take it all the way to stoichiometric. Doing th= is in the air could be hazardous to your drawers, you might take it to a= setting where the engine quits.
 
Mode 9 is incremental adjustments. setting the program knob rich or= lean and pushing the store button moves it a =E2=80=98little way =E2=80= =98 in the preferred direction, need more =E2=80=93 push again. Much safer= for inflight adjustments.
 
Tracy can probably explain this better, but that is my understanding.=
 
Bill= Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:25 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fwd: EC2 modes 5 & 9
 
 =20
 
I think I have uncovered the glitch making my engine run like crap- the so= lid wires on the back of the cold start switch got smooshed together there= by making the engine run too rich all the time. Have not had time to get= into the panel and correct it, but when I run the engine, and put sideway= s pressure on the switch, the engine smooths out. So, I'll check on those= wires when I get up to the airport tomorrow.
Hope that this is the cause for my rough running- This engine/airfram= e combination promises to be a real nice combination.
 
Also I have a question- mode 5 is not used, at least in my version (c= irca 2006). Is there any use for it in later versions?
 
Another question- mode 9 differs from mode 1 in what respect? I've re= -read the manual but don't see what the difference is.
 
Brian Trubee
 


 
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