X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2a) with ESMTP id 4835124 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:46:03 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.78.142; envelope-from=wrjjrs@aol.com Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p127jMY4028474 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:45:22 -0500 Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (240.sub-174-253-241.myvzw.com [174.253.241.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 39B55E00008E for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:45:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "wrjjrs@aol.com" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:45:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Al Tubing in fuel line... X-Priority: 3 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Motorola-A-Mail-hgqrxphktQtJb6zS" x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:475004832:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33824d490b8f66b3 X-AOL-IP: 174.253.241.240 --Motorola-A-Mail-hgqrxphktQtJb6zS Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok guys I can understand the concern with fatigue in a vibrating section, but even a stainless steel braided line will at best have a teflon inner tube. That is good to about 325 degrees. Aluminium melts at what, about 1200-1300 degrees. If you do use aluminium tubing use the soft annealed stuff and use a flare or compression fitting on the ends. How well you finish the install would probably be more important than the material. Bill Jepson Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Bill Bradburry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, Feb 2, 2011 02:30:23 GMT+00:00 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Al Tubing in fuel line... Well, unfortunately!! :>) Bill B -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:32 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Al Tubing in fuel line... Yeah, I try to avoid rubber fuel lines too. Stainless braid, silicone, fire-sleeved line; call me picky. And hopefully your firewall is not plastic...! Ernest Christley wrote: > Patrick wrote: >> Bill, >> I would suggest taking a propane torch to a piece of scrap aluminum >> (beer can) and a piece of stainless. 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