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Brian,
How often will you change the filter? If you
have just one, how do you determine that it is clogging so you can get safely
on the ground? Is the replacement filter one that can be easily accessed
when/if you need to replace it?
Tracy, could you please answer the same questions?
Is anyone finding that black granular
material in the filter? If it is coming from the pump, is that normal for a
new pump or is it a sign of pump failure? I have run a total of maybe 50-60
gal thru my engine most of it thru this same pump. That seems early to have
any kind of failure??
I would really like some pictures if
installations for ideas. I have my pumps and filters mounted in a vertical line
up one side of the firewall. If I remove the existing filters, I would have
about 5 inches of vertical space to mount the canister filter. If it was 8.5
inches high like Brian’s filter, it would not fit in the space unless I shimmed
it out a couple of inches to clear the pumps below. This seems like it would
not be sturdy??
Bill B
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of bktrub@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011
12:45 AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MAP table
corruption? Nope! fuel filters!
I have one of the big oil type fuel
filters- I got it from Jegs, and it has a spigot on the canister to drain
moisture off, so it doubles as a gascolator.
I imagine it would take a lot of crud to
clog one of these.
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From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 9:33 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] MAP table corruption? Nope! fuel filters!
Well, the MAP table was ok. The
problem was my high pressure fuel filter on the primary fuel pump. There
were a lot of black particles in the filter that had it blocked. The
secondary filter was clean but had only been run for a few minutes. This
is the second time I found black material in this filter. The first time
was about 40 gallons ago. This previous material was somewhat gooey and I
thought that it may have come from not properly cleaning my hoses out after I
made them. This time the material looked like tiny black particles.
I don’t think they came from the hoses, but if not, they must have come
from the pump itself.
My fuel system is ..from the wing tanks: a
finger strainer in the outlet of the tank, then to a fuel selector valve, then
thru a boost pump, then to a Gascolator, then to either of primary or secondary
fuel pump, then a filter after each pump, then fuel rail, then fuel pressure
regulator, then excess fuel returns thru the selector valve to the tank I am
using from.
I haven’t yet checked my finger
strainers because they are a bitch to get to, but my Gascolator did not have
any of the black particles in it. It had a small amount of white fuzz
that is probably fiberglass dust from my fuel tanks in it. This leaves me
a section of -8 hose about 14 inches long or the fuel pump to be the source of
the black particles. Oh yeah, the finger strainers and the Gascolator are
both able to move fuel. I emptied both tanks of about 15 gal of fuel so
that I could try and check the finger strainers. The boost pump filled a
5 gal can in 2 or 3 minutes pumping thru the strainers and Gascolator. My
fuel lines up to the FI pumps are all either ½ inch or -8 in size. After
the FI pumps the fuel lines go to -6 to the regulator and -4 to return to the
tanks.
Is anyone else seeing this kind of
material in their filters?
Also, since this occurred with about a
tank of gas since I last cleaned the filters, I am concerned about the capacity
of the fuel filters I am using. I am using Summit filters like the one here.
This filter has a small screen that is
about ¾ inch in diameter and is 40 microns, so when it gets very little
contamination, it plugs. I am thinking it would be fine for a drag car,
but not for hours of flight unless your system was so clean you didn’t
need it in the first place.
I originally had one filter in the system,
but became concerned and added another one. Now I am wondering if I
should go to the type of filter that looks like an oil filter and if I do,
would one be sufficient or should I try and put in two filters of that
type. I have very little space to add this type of filter and I
don’t know if it would even be possible to add two of them. I would
really appreciate any input you guys could give and possibly some pics of your
installation if you are using the oil filter type. Do these type have the
capacity to flow fuel when they get contaminated or will they block like these
small in line filters?
Fuel starvation is a major cause of
experimental plane crashes and I am close enough to be thinking of
flying. :>) Hep me! Hep me!
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011
5:24 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Apex
seals and MAP table corruption?
I may be taking it back what I said about
the MAP table. During my runup today, I noticed that the fuel pressure
was dropping. At full WOT, the pressure dropped to below 20 psi. I
engaged the secondary fuel pump and the pressure came back to the 40 lb
range. It appears that my fuel filter after the primary pump may be
partially clogged. I will clean them tomorrow and let you know what I
find.
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