X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ew0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4671172 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:01:34 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.52; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so10023133ewy.25 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:00:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V1fGvNRMaCUpE92GNsjdKpXc5syKFWRVypU/WiQV73s=; b=p5P5L+L5qqssXo94B5YmpFP1yxedtSyOTfyDJQp5baZsjvIkh01i9KxKTGhLbQp16Z sPtX7UqM5VQpQVnLJIL7Lmnvm8wlWHSKrkgdnQs44eymkZxZVZjGtUvi4/O135zgJznq qN2rX5w9+7yo/pLVnsFvT0W1GQYJZwCniDUFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uKfL21wjtH+zHVkFisGgZtPgYPFAaLL2nz2TEI7ygWa6DYmpw1ZFdlFrdK10WXlG3i 054G4Qb/G9nfiU4A15NFwb+k329ztw1LbGhRpr2fm8fGuXj1koxnYzAqcer37FuDpXL3 cJD4XpLNj82dZv8aZ54GQqXFoIWHviFCQyoRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.9.131 with SMTP id l3mr365061ebl.37.1294772456157; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.31.132 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:00:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:00:56 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Broken Tension Bolt ... update From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c100050734e049996b495 --0015174c100050734e049996b495 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, At this point I believe that I would bite the bullet and disassemble the engine. Those irons are too expensive to risk damaging. Mark S. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jeff Whaley wrote: > Hey thanks Ernest, you shouldn=92t have to do that, but I won=92t stop y= ou =85 > > I=92ve ordered two long bits, 5/32=94 and 3/16=94 for inside diameter =85= the > outside diameter you could double-check with any housing, but 3/8=94 is a > pretty close tolerance fit. > > Jeff Whaley > > 100 Manion Rd, > > RR#2 Carp, Ontario, Canada > > K0A 1L0 > > > > From: > > Ernest Christley > > Subject: > > Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Broken Tension Bolt ... update > > Date: > > Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:07:28 -0500 > > To: > > Rotary motors in aircraft > > > > Ernest Christley wrote: > > > Jeff, send me a couple of measurements and I'll turn a collar that you ca= n > use as a guide to center the drill bit. The inside diameter would be the > diameter of your bit. The outside would be the size of the hole. > > > > > > *From:* Jeff Whaley > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:52 PM > *To:* 'Rotary motors in aircraft' > *Subject:* RE: Broken Tension Bolt ... update > > > > So far no luck at getting the broken tension bolt threaded end out of the > front casting. With help from Cary Beazley, we were able to back out the > broken part a little bit with just pressure and mating the two surfaces > together, until it jammed and would come no further. Not having (or know= ing > about) LH drill bits at the time, we decided to RH drill a pilot hole for= an > easy-out. Drilling the hole was no problem but getting it centered was, = so > it=92s drilled off-center and the broken piece is now probably bottomed o= ut in > the casting. The easy-out is simply not latching onto the bolt. We=92re > going to borrow a bore scope to get a better look. After that I=92ll hav= e to > make a long center-punch and try to make a new (centered) pilot hole with > the long LH drill bits on-order (see link) =85 hopefully they=92ll grab o= nto the > part and extract it, otherwise it will be an engine tear-down, which I dr= ead > at any time but at -10C it=92s no fun at all. > > > > http://www.icscuttingtools.com/catalog/page_110.pdf > > > > *Jeff Whaley* > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5778 (20110111) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the > addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any > unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our > internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. > --0015174c100050734e049996b495 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff,
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At this point I believe that I would bite the bullet and disassemble t= he engine.=A0 Those irons are too expensive to risk damaging.=A0
=A0
Mark S.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacas= t.com> wrote:

Hey thanks Ernest, yo= u shouldn=92t have to do that, but I won=92t stop you =85

I=92ve ordered two lo= ng bits, 5/32=94 and 3/16=94 for inside diameter =85 the outside diameter y= ou could double-check with any housing, but 3/8=94 is a pretty close tolera= nce fit.

Jeff Whaley

100 Manion Rd,

RR#2 Carp, Ontario, C= anada

K0A 1L0

=A0

From:

Ernest Christley <= echristley@att.net<= /a>>

Subject:

Re: [FlyRotary] Re: B= roken Tension Bolt ... update

Date:

Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:0= 7:28 -0500

To:

Rotary motors in airc= raft <f= lyrotary@lancaironline.net>

=A0

Ernest Christley wrote:


Jeff, send me a couple of measurements and I'll tur= n a collar that you can use as a guide to center the drill bit. =A0The insi= de diameter would be the diameter of your bit. =A0The outside would be the = size of the hole.

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From:<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Jeff Whaley
Sent: Tuesday, Janua= ry 11, 2011 12:52 PM
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft'
<= b>Subject: RE: Broken Tension Bolt ... update

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So far no luck at getting the broken tension bolt th= readed end out of the front casting.=A0 With help from Cary Beazley, we wer= e able to back out the broken part a little bit with just pressure and mati= ng the two surfaces together, until it jammed and would come no further.=A0= Not having (or knowing about) LH drill bits at the time, we decided to RH = drill a pilot hole for an easy-out.=A0 Drilling the hole was no problem but= getting it centered was, so it=92s drilled off-center and the broken piece= is now probably bottomed out in the casting.=A0 The easy-out is simply not= latching onto the bolt.=A0 We=92re going to borrow a bore scope to get a b= etter look.=A0 After that I=92ll have to make a long center-punch and try t= o make a new (centered) pilot hole with the long LH drill bits on-order (se= e link) =85 hopefully they=92ll grab onto the part and extract it, otherwis= e it will be an engine tear-down, which I dread at any time but at -10C it= =92s no fun at all.

=A0

http://www.icscuttingtools.com/catalog/page_1= 10.pdf

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Jeff Whaley



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