X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.94] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with SMTP id 4666674 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:16:17 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.94; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2011 04:15:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.6] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2011 04:15:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2011 04:15:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 737532.46542.bm@omp1006.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 47724 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2011 04:15:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1294373743; bh=DAGw/aS4zMjdLh4WsZgKoblLdzBLMepIhuqws5zC/ug=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tKY533j/NsDMHcO2AuGoLEl1ACqkgw3uzOaWduS2ByA+EjLuDOYhfINvoqEXS/RLJopTcipnWB/Q8r1r5mZG75ax+a+myWMfDtfqft58Dy5OJ05m98DdQfHuVrmK2TBjnyTeiusgnwwvNFXrl9ttxW9RGwTnf3Wtbk2xCWMetAI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2k2hukewUz3TVGd7r+J3Tdf7WIj5m9xLw2yjHf8P5tnx92SGslRras+sBYOgLgwcd+AGh4+cqjdjTM+mhp2OdgfCJr2inWYyhRqqPbPBZcQHqtgGExwXecBrcVPtEjmhM6p0LoBAcDNGKq7AwWQKmnStDL+HkSBimH12ZQiY9RE=; Message-ID: <500816.47411.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: B_bcTGIVM1mOepnABIYFwH2CE3YAte6AFNy..M91dfGbXQh hFBGrwxIjFp.6hkDVesLa1eT84_p6C7B0lXxY5mdm9shTxw4keOfnCo5nXtY vyKETnmf.5qlxQbKNof._BWY5r2XnVV9sayWCNmvcAny5ZGpCKTtF00ilppT 1yHvQbnKyxAPmiKS0ZN3ry5GN1KLZvMhQiOj7cVViJz9Vslp8iWPyrEd6HRG B8T3w.lZdxBdXM4qglNs1Jnwk2DI95wW3KR2ROEpAlGqtMtPMiVZXw33xCxG asBgmXI3q4ggrAUP2y5t9CAWkgg-- Received: from [208.114.41.2] by web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:15:43 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:15:43 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: NOTICE !!!! Engine run-on with fuel pumps off! To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-961375115-1294373743=:47411" --0-961375115-1294373743=:47411 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thought comes to mind David..........Our little EFI fuel pumps are both= =0Alubricated=0Aand cooled by fuel so try not to run them on an empty tank= as they do not last =0Avery=0Along without fuel...........<:)..........Int= eresting situation though !!=0A=A0=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Event= ually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oi= l Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0AFrom: "hoursaway1@comcast.net" =0ATo:= Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Thu, Janua= ry 6, 2011 9:32:30 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] NOTICE !!!! Engine run-on with= fuel pumps off!=0A=0A=0ALong story short,=A0 standard eng. shut-down,=A0 m= ain fuel pump switch to OFF,=A0 half =0Asecond or less, =A0eng. quits rathe= r quickly.=A0=A0=A0 """UNLESS"""=A0=A0 you are low on =0Afuel,,, & picked u= p some air in the lines,,,=A0 eng. remained running,,,=A0 after =0Ashaking = the thoughts of gremlins out of my head,=A0 possible as long as 20-30 =0Ase= conds & quick look at fuel gauge for tank I was on the thought came to me t= hat =0AI picked up air from empty tank & pressurized it with fuel pump, I n= ow have an =0Aair pressure-fuel pump backup sys. so eng. will remain runnin= g, had to shut down =0Aelect. to stop eng.=A0 How about that one to start t= he year.=A0=A0 David R. Cook=A0 RV6A =0ARotary. --0-961375115-1294373743=:47411 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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One thought comes to mind David..........Our little= EFI fuel pumps are both lubricated
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Kelly Troyer
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"TU= RBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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=0A= From: "hoursaway1@comcast.net" <hoursaway1@comcast.net>To: Rotary motors in aircr= aft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 9:32:30 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] NOTICE !!!! Engine run-o= n with fuel pumps off!

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Long story short,  standard eng. shut-down,  main fu= el pump switch to OFF,  half second or less,  eng. quits rather q= uickly.    """UNLESS"""   you are low on fuel,,, &= amp; picked up some air in the lines,,,  eng. remained running,,, = ; after shaking the thoughts of gremlins out of my head,  possible as = long as 20-30 seconds & quick look at fuel gauge for tank I was on the = thought came to me that I picked up air from empty tank & pressurized i= t with fuel pump, I now have an air pressure-fuel pump backup sys. so eng. = will remain running, had to shut down elect. to stop eng.  How about t= hat one to start the year.   David R. Cook  RV6A Rotary.

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