X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ew0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4662489 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:47:25 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.52; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so6725403ewy.25 for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:46:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zsoDxu/xzpbLnMR71uLIwsLO/IlK5DsL3jVZ/5qhM00=; b=j5kxhrWbqs9izZC7XXkJbyJyIAyHZu+/YKcdjRaIqE0nkCnw0HOLpVHcZv5aNpixzO LLkmAQ5sZLBBGWD5/gdBkQugkQgLWsj0RH/0JDr4BJWEO7wEuy4kN1NVzEsDp9pCIuW+ pWToM7TCDKID86tq2BLAbWIfZNs+/36F1BA5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FBwb0/zjPTDTLm3b3h3b9mXKPgkyFUOIBi+CnJK+w8Jdg6D8d7AAn18o5dR1T6bjbx yJlcc9tYciLkTRzoY/wN6l6Ws48xUaGvsyTDtE7ylXrjFnshSggmglO84kUAEaA/Oq/u evmfCSmUBO/yot8Avz9SL06Uc4PyQTTB0TXk0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.17.17 with SMTP id q17mr8003950eba.10.1294073208795; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.33.206 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:46:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:46:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: GM Coil Comparison From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c347eec74a60498f3e5d8 --0015174c347eec74a60498f3e5d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK, just want to be sure before purchasing new coils. Thanks, Mark On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Tracy wrote: > That is correct Mark. > > Tracy > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: > >> Tracy, >> >> So, if I understand you correctly, I could change over from the D581 to >> the D585 coils without requiring any upgrade to the EC-2? >> >> Mark S. >> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Tracy wrote: >> >>> I highly recommend the air cooled enclosure as Steve Boese (and I) use. >>> This is especially important on the D581 and the stock RX-8 Renesis coils. >>> The Renesis coils have a fairly high failure rate even on the car. The >>> D581 would only last a few hours at 150 F but I have about 250 hours on them >>> with the airbox at 120F. >>> >>> Don't forget to do the coil disable test to check for failed coils prior >>> to every flight. >>> >>> Tracy >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Steven W. Boese wrote: >>> >>>> I have about 100 hours on D585 coils and have had no problems with >>>> them so far. The temperature in their airblasted enclosure is usually less >>>> than 100 degrees in flight and has gotten up to 120 degrees during taxi. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve Boese >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Tracy >>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 8:41 AM >>>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >>>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: GM Coil Comparison >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a set of the D585 coils but have only evaluated them on the bench >>>> for compatibility with the EC2/3 (they are). >>>> >>>> I do know that the previous version of the truck coils (D581) are not as >>>> reliable as the D580 (Corvette) coils. >>>> >>>> Tracy >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: >>>> >>>> Happy New Year Group, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A little info regarding the various GM ignition coils that many >>>> of us use on our >>>> >>>> Rotary engines with Tracy's EC2 and EC3 boxes that I thought might be of >>>> interest >>>> >>>> to those that have not seen it before.............Tracy would like your >>>> comments on the >>>> >>>> the apparently big performance difference between the LS1 verses the LS2 >>>> Truck >>>> >>>> coils and if an upgrade would be worth the $$ especially for those of us >>>> that have >>>> >>>> or plan on Turbocharging in light of the higher combustion chamber >>>> pressures....... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.megamanual.com/seq/coils.htm#ls1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6218245369765754251&hl=en# >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kelly Troyer >>>> *"DYKE DELTA JD2"** **(Eventually)* >>>> >>>> "13B ROTARY"_ Engine >>>> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 >>>> "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >>>> >>>> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > --0015174c347eec74a60498f3e5d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, just want to be sure before purchasing new coils.=A0
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Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Tracy <tracy@rotaryaviati= on.com> wrote:
That is correct Mark.

Tracy
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On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Tracy,
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So, if I understand you correctly, I could change over from the D581 t= o the D585 coils without requiring any upgrade to the EC-2?=A0
=A0
Mark S.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Tracy <= tracy@rotaryaviation.com> wrote:
I highly recommend t= he air cooled enclosure as Steve Boese (and I) use.=A0 This is especially i= mportant on the D581 and the stock RX-8 Renesis coils.=A0 The Renesis coils= have a fairly high failure rate even on the car.=A0=A0 The D581 would only= last a few hours at 150 F but I have about 250 hours on them with the airb= ox at 120F.

Don't forget to do the coil disable test to check for failed coils = prior to every flight.

Tracy
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On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Steven W. Boese= <SBoese@uwyo.edu> wrote:

I have about 100 hours on D585 coils and have had no problems with them = so far.=A0 The temperature in their airblasted enclosure is usually less th= an 100 degrees in flight and has gotten up to 120 degrees during taxi.

=A0

Steve Boese

=A0

From:<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancair= online.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:41 AM
To: Rotary motors i= n aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: GM Coil Comparison

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I have a set of the D5= 85 coils but have only evaluated them on the bench for compatibility with t= he EC2/3=A0 (they are).

I do know that the previous version of the t= ruck coils (D581) are not as reliable as the D580 (Corvette) coils.

Tracy

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wro= te:

Happy=A0New Year Group,=

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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 A= little info regarding the various GM ignition coils that many of us use on= our

Rotary engines=A0with T= racy's EC2 and EC3 boxes that I thought might be of interest

=

to those that have not = seen it before.............Tracy would like your comments on the

=

the apparently big perf= ormance difference between the LS1 verses the LS2 Truck

coils and if an upgrade= would be worth the $$ especially for those of us that have

or plan on Turbochargin= g in light of the higher combustion chamber pressures.......=A0

<= /div>

=A0

=A0

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=A0

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS= "_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=

=A0





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