Return-Path: Received: from front1.chartermi.net ([24.213.60.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2936838 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:56:35 -0500 Received: from [24.231.184.247] (HELO eric) by front1.chartermi.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with SMTP id 209350739 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c3dd6f$c30a3400$0202a8c0@eric> From: "Eric Ruttan" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling Article - SportAviation Mag Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:04:17 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 It would seem that one could put a divider on the rad to split it into "smaller" rads and shorten the duct. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling Article - SportAviation Mag Keep in mind, Kelvin, that the are referring to optimum type ducts. Naturally, If you can accommondate an optimum duct then you have the best solution. However, I have read research papers on short ducts as well. It seems that a short duct can provided adequate cooling, in fact better cooling than a long duct that has separation of air flow and distruption due to eddies. You do not however, get as much pressure recovery with a short duct. This means that you will probably have higher air flow velocity throught your radiator. While this will probably cool adequately your cooling drag will increase considerably. Depending on what proportion of your total drag your cooling drag factor is will determine how much impact it has on performance. As long as you have sufficient mass flow throught your radiator you will cool. However, you will likely be incurring more drag than when using an optimum duct. Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: kevin lane To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:52 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling Article - SportAviation Mag in that article they mentioned that optimal entry duct length is 2 to 3 times the height or width of the radiator, whatever is greater. with my belly-mounted radiator, 8 x 22", that means I need something between 4 and 6 feet? since I am eyeball engineering this thing and mimicking the p-51 I have an entry duct closer to 22" in length. does this seem reasonable? with a 6' scoop perhaps I could make water landings :-) Kevin Lane Portland, OR e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 (browse w/ internet explorer) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:18 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Cooling Article - SportAviation Mag Excellent article in EAA Sport Aviation Mag I received today, on liquid cooling. In reading it, much seemed familar and sure enough one of the two references is Kuchemann and Weber. They also point out that the Streamline Duct is a more practical alternative to the 7 Deg optimum duct for aviation use as well as other useful information. Well worth reading. Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC