X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.228] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with SMTP id 4647242 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:13:07 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.228; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm25.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2010 21:12:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.53] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2010 21:12:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2010 21:12:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 371958.31887.bm@omp1053.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 62936 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Dec 2010 21:12:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1292793153; bh=dK8TSULz8D7oM8STpzPi3PA0JseqsAf6HOeKFZz3NlI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pWi6ip8y+iHfmFJirsitnjNyGHDlYRHYuViSN8yM3mP8uFUK/2h7BU3O6LkhworDjkfpCWILc08jepWsfERsYnSs1hCv7OqFRknF3WDaqsu01xJq2rO1x0BEznfjJsH2tOTfz5AZ+B6PS445aZVhhumCMR9aZOTwAG5lvfaAs/8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qhA4nu0zWB5EmVWJiGLkOvwdMDhmliobHM1G/60xIyClbXZJKcGmaDhzPAt/bXR6b+ZzV7JIS1yjo9/jHNcABznhR4OgOzXnSQX6G5vkZF3etp0ue4/OBXp3ac7kZBKWGwmcxdK/hN1/lAyNYMWA+dcM2HC8sR/bkvhnr2r2o4Y=; Message-ID: <173884.62465.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CfijQiUVM1l6cLiJ8pOgumK1wRZdN8OHF4J7znlHyfDgCXg 0VbyFPCGuE9fGnE48sZYVBHvlcvoxyvFdDm9NhhcoYM0t78VBl.6MV8g6AVR pEn1SIev7Vqq16YJDLj56ChoIFUAMHNPbPIwNJ3ExNZghyolLkHXgRU9kxX1 3qynKKSXTblhk5R7vfkzXQzAbIh5Jrm6DlYfr3LrDn2u6GfoYjUq_HnbjT_B ZFxvuUx6P.m_mf1EMukgOhWGzzqQlqDWsjECquwkE80FXuy3PR7Ul_n8.At5 rtoRropSCzQ-- Received: from [208.114.47.70] by web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:12:32 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:12:32 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: Fw: Water temps To: Rotary motors in aircraft Cc: CozyGirrrl@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-369695430-1292793152=:62465" --0-369695430-1292793152=:62465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chrissi,=0A=A0=A0=A0 I did not see an answer to=A0your question about "Moca= l" water to oil =0Acoolers...............It has been =0A=0Areported previou= sly that some have used the "Mocal" model A43-330 cooler with =0Asuccess...= .....=0A=A0=A0 Some have had custom units built by Ed Klepis at=A0 "Tech -W= eld" or other =0Asuppliers...........=A0I have =0A=0Ahad a 330 for some tim= e but alas I am still grounded =0A!!.............<:).........See PDF below.= .........=A0=0A=0A=0Ahttp://97.74.103.94/files/laminova.pdf=0A=A0=0AKelly T= royer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/E= C2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A= =0A=0A=0A=A0=0A>>=A0=0A>>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>>From:"C= ozyGirrrl@aol.com" =0A>>To: keltro@att.net=0A>>Sent: Mo= n, December 13, 201012:52:06 PM=0A>>Subject: Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Wa= ter temps=0A>>This is where I get confused:=0A>>=A0=0A>>said previously, = =0A>>-ideal water temp =3D 160*~180*F=0A>>-ideal oil temp =3D 160*F=0A>>=A0= =0A>>If we are cooling oil with water that is at best hotter than the ideal= temp of =0A>>the oil, then are we not adding heat to it rather than removi= ng it? =0A>>=0A>>=A0=0A>>If we are trying to cool oil, why would we feed th= e highest temp water to the =0A>>oil/water cooler rather than the coolest t= emp water by tapping into the pump =0A>>housing where it enters the block?= =0A>>=A0=0A>>Based on feedback, the water entering the block may be as low = as 150*~160*F, =0A>>would this be cool enough to do an adequate job of cool= ing the oil?=0A>>=A0=0A>>Also, which model of Mocal is being used?=0A>>=A0= =0A>>...Chrissi=0A --0-369695430-1292793152=:62465 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From: "CozyGirrrl@aol.com" <CozyGirrrl@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: = Fw: Water temps

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This is where I get con= fused:

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If we are cooling oi= l with water that is at best hotter than the ideal temp of the oil, then ar= e we not adding heat to it rather than removing it?

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If w= e are trying to cool oil, why would we feed the highest temp water to the o= il/water cooler rather than the coolest temp water by tapping into the pump= housing where it enters the block?

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