X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc2-s3.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4641634 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:10:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.111.78; envelope-from=stol83001@live.com Received: from BLU158-W27 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s3.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:09:56 -0800 Message-ID: Return-Path: stol83001@live.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b170aff-de52-4ddf-978c-af8904a43960_" X-Originating-IP: [75.174.168.192] From: ben haas To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: cabin heat Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:09:56 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2010 01:09:56.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9825B00:01CB9BF4] --_1b170aff-de52-4ddf-978c-af8904a43960_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I put one of these=2C 1JA 943018=2C in my experimental and it works great= . Keeps the cabin @ 80 f when its below zero outside...... The defroster ve= nts are what convinced me to use this one. Most of the other choices didn't= have that option. You can see my installation about 22 minutes into the= video. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-7272451917550730841&hl=3Den# Ben Haas www.haaspowerair.com =20 To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net From: gregw@onestopdesign.biz Date: Mon=2C 13 Dec 2010 13:51:07 -0800 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: cabin heat Hey Kelley=3B We are going with a small heater from J.C. Whitney=2C (Product Number: 1290= 3G=2C or 1JA 943018=2C whichever fits) because they have defroster as well = as regular forced air. They are also small enough to go in the front of ou= r avionics shelf=2C right up next to the firewall=2C so easy plumbing=2C 14= 0 CFM=2C 12=2C000BTU's. We will put a valve on both ends=2C in case of lea= ks though. Not a good idea to have coolant running around the cockpit at 1= 5K feet=2C that's why we ran ALL plumbing outside of the fuselage. Greg Ward Legacy N178RG 20b=2C still in progress ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday=2C December 13=2C 2010 12:18 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] cabin heat Joe=2C Opinions express in earlier posts on this subject seem to suggest that u= sing the engine coolant=20 for cabin heat would be much more efficient......................Perhaps th= e experts of the list will chime=20 in on the technical details as to why................=20 =20 Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo From: josrph berki To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Fri=2C December 10=2C 2010 8:53:05 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] cabin heat Has anyone tried a oil to water heat exchager on a seperate loop with an electric pump and a heat exchanger to provide cabin heat? If the system leaked it could be shut down and not affect the cooling system. Thanks for any input Joe Berki Limo EZ -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.h= tml = --_1b170aff-de52-4ddf-978c-af8904a43960_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I put one of these=2C =3B 1JA =3B943018=2C =3B in my experiment= al and it works great. Keeps the cabin @ 80 f when its below zero outside..= .... The defroster vents are what convinced me to use this one. Most of the= other choices didn't have that option. =3B =3B =3B You can see= my installation about 22 minutes into the video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-727245191755073084= 1&=3Bhl=3Den#

Ben Haas
www.haaspowerair.com



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To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
From: gregw@onestopdesign.biz
Date: M= on=2C 13 Dec 2010 13:51:07 -0800
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: cabin heat
=
Hey Kelley=3B
We are going with a small heater from J.= C. Whitney=2C (Product Number: 12903G=2C or 1JA =3B943018=2C whichever fits) because =3Bthey have =3Bdefroster as well as regular forc= ed air. =3B =3BThey are =3Balso small enough to go in the front= of our avionics shelf=2C right up next to the firewall=2C so easy plumbing= =2C 140 CFM=2C 12=2C000BTU's. =3B We will put a valve on both ends=2C i= n case of leaks though. =3B Not a good idea to have coolant running aro= und the cockpit at 15K feet=2C that's why we ran ALL plumbing outside of th= e fuselage.
Greg Ward
Legacy N178RG 20b=2C still in progress
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday=2C December 13=2C 2010 = 12:18 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] cabin heat

Joe=2C
 =3B =3B Opinions express in earlier posts on this subject&nbs= p=3Bseem to suggest that using the engine coolant
for cabin heat would be much more efficient......................Perha= ps the experts of the list =3Bwill chime
in on the technical details as to why................ =3B
 =3B
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manif= old
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo



From: josrph berki <=3Bjs= kmberki@windstream.net>=3B
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <=3Bflyrotary@lancaironline.net>=3B<= BR>Sent: Fri=2C December 10= =2C 2010 8:53:05 PM
Subject:= [FlyRotary] cabin heat

Has anyone tried a oil to water h= eat exchager on a seperate loop with an
electric pump and a heat exchang= er to provide cabin heat? =3B If the system
leaked it could be shut = down and not affect the cooling system. =3B Thanks for
any input
=
Joe Berki
Limo EZ


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