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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] "COSMO" or 93-95 RX7 Auto Xmission Bell Housing
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Sorry, I didn't get the transmission or bell housing with my engine.




On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:

>   Mark,
>
>     Forgot to ask you something in the previous post.............Was a au=
to
> transmission included
>  with either of your 20B engines ?............My "Cosmo" 13B included the
> transmission which I
>  robbed the bell housing from to provide an extension for my "RD1C" like
> "Bulent" did for his
>  "COSY" ( see attached photo ).............This required a longer RD1C
> input shaft of which there
>  are only two in existance that Tracy agreed make ( against his better
> judgement ) as these
> .were "One Offs" and pricey................I am trying to find another be=
ll
> housing from a "Cosmo"
>  as a spare...............I do not think anyone ever has a use for the
> transmission and they end up
>  as scrap..............The 93-95 RX7 auto xmission bell housing is the sa=
me
> but very few RX7's
>  of those years had a automatic xmission..............
>
>    If  you or anyone else of the group has or knows where I might find on=
e
> of these bell housings
>  please let me know...............
>
>  P.S.- The bell Housing bolts to the transmission for those not familar
> with it...........
>
>  Thanks,
>
>
> Kelly Troyer
> *"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)*
>
> "13B ROTARY"_ Engine
> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
>
> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> *Sent:* Mon, November 15, 2010 10:19:03 AM
> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Hey are those 304 Stainless staples...(from
> David)
>
> Kelly,
>
> Well, I would usually settle for somewhere around 2300 rpm as it got too
> "ratty" below that RPM.  I didn't mention it in my earlier post, but I ha=
d
> borrowed Bob Darrah's EC-2 to run while mine was being re-worked .  Bob's
> EC-2 didn't have the injector snubbers, and it had not been upgraded sinc=
e
> 2006.  Tracy was surprised that it ran as well as it did.  However, while
> not finely tuned, it did run better than my unit.
>
> Yes, I suppose I'll have to record a ground run, just for the fun of it,
> and to help us through the long winter months ahead.  Stay tuned (no pun
> intended).
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
>
>>   Mark,
>>     What was your idle MP before the EC2 update ?...............Do you
>> have any video with
>> sounds of that "Leg Chilling" 20B at idle ?.................I could use =
a
>> thrill !!.................<:)
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelly Troyer
>> *"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)*
>>
>> "13B ROTARY"_ Engine
>> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
>> "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
>>
>> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>> *Sent:* Mon, November 15, 2010 8:39:02 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Hey are those 304 Stainless staples...(from
>> David)
>>
>> 7000 rpm static - WoW!  sounds like not enough pitch in the prop to abso=
rb
>> the power - tough situation to be in - NOT!
>>
>> Regarding your 17" manifold pressure at idle - here is a comparison  of
>> port timing information from Paul Yaw
>> You can see that the total open time of the PP is considerable greater
>> than the turbo 13B.  So for a given rpm, I would conclude that since ave=
rage
>> amount of time  the PP intake is open longer to the atmosphere for the s=
ame
>> RPM as a turbo 13B,  that the intake manifold pressure would be higher f=
or
>> the same rpm.  So what you are seeing just may well be "normal" for a PP
>> port.
>>
>> But then I don't own and have no experience with a PP.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Second and Third Generation Turbo 13B
>>
>> IO 32=B0 ATDC
>> IC 50=B0 ABDC
>> EO 71=B0 BBDC
>> EC 48=B0 ATDC Mazda Factory Peripheral Port
>>
>> IO 86=B0 BTDC
>> IC 75=B0 ABDC
>> EO 73=B0 BBDC
>> EC 65=B0 ATDC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>> ASThis site is meant to give information
>>
>>  *From:* Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 9:09 AM
>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Hey are those 304 Stainless staples...(from
>> David)
>>
>> OK, Doug, I'll post my weekend update.
>>
>> As some of you may know, I have had troubles getting my 20B to run as it
>> should.  Problems started about 3 years back when I decided to convert f=
rom
>> the stock CAS to the Renesis style CAS.  While I did have limited succes=
s,
>> it was very sensitive to alignment and air gap of the CAS sensor, and
>> possibly some other issues that I am not smart enough to figure out.  I =
had
>> trouble getting it to run above 5800 rpm.
>>
>> About a month ago I decided that enough was enough and I called Tracy to
>> say that I wanted my EC-2 converted back to the original configuration. =
 I
>> sent it back to Tracy who made the mod and upgraded the software to the
>> latest version.  I got it back on Friday and was anxious to see how it w=
ould
>> perform.  I installed the upgraded EC-2 on Saturday.  Yea, it started on=
 the
>> third prop blade and ran quite well, although the Mixture knob was not a=
t
>> "12 O'clock", it ran very smooth.  Following the instructions in the man=
ual,
>> first thing I did was to adjust Mode 3 to compensate for my larger 60#
>> injectors.  Now it was running really well in the upper rpm/map ranges. =
 A
>> little adjusting of the lower addresses using Mode 1 & 9 and it was idli=
ng
>> down around 1500 rpm.  (Keep in mind that this is a p-port motor.)  The
>> exhaust tone at low idle is hard to describe...it is enough to send chil=
ls
>> up your leg.  ;-0
>>
>> Sunday, after a some more tuning, I got it to where it would almost
>> do 7000 rpm static.  (Keep in mind that Lockhart, TX is a small country =
town
>> and this was Sunday morning.  You could probably hear me tuning my engin=
e
>> all over town.)  Confident that it would stay running, I decided it was =
time
>> to fly.  It climbed out at 6700 rpm as smooth as could be.  There was a
>> 5000' ceiling, so I couldn't climb too high, but the air was silky smoot=
h.
>> I flew a couple of patterns, climbing as I circled.  At 3500 msl I heade=
d
>> east and did some tuning with Mode 9 at different MAP settings.  Up and =
down
>> the scale, fine-tuning each address.  She was running like a fine Swiss
>> watch, or to put it another way, like a rotary should.
>>
>> Issues:
>> 1)  MAP Readings - It appears that I may have a vacuum leak as the MAP a=
t
>> idle is reading 17.4".  Next trip to the airport I will double-check to =
make
>> sure that I got both lines plugged into the EC-2 properly, and check for
>> leaks elsewhere.  It is amazing that it idles as well as it does under t=
hese
>> circumstances.  Note that rather than using a throttle body, I am using =
a
>> slide-throttle which is located just a few inches from the intake ports.
>> So, the vacuum lines are plugged into the unused oil injection ports in =
the
>> rotor housings (no oil injection pump).  Could this account for the unus=
ual
>> MAP readings?  I do have a plenum, but since it is open to the atmospher=
e, I
>> can't measure MAP from there.  I think there are others that use this sc=
heme
>> with success.
>> 2) Performance - I seem to hit a speed wall at around 2000-2100 prop
>> rpm.  I can set the prop higher and get a higher engine rpm, but the hig=
her
>> rpm doesn't translate into higher speeds.  The speed will gradually
>> start bleeding off.  Not sure why this is happening.  Could be tuning, o=
r
>> intake/exhaust design, or just a characteristic of the M/T prop.  Or, ma=
ybe
>> the engine isn't making enough horsepower to push the airframe through t=
he
>> air any faster.  It is annoying though, knowing that you have another 15=
00
>> rpm on tap but can't use it.
>>
>> 3) Alternator - the voltage reading on main alternator is low.  This is =
a
>> new alternator which has been converted to external regulator.  I'll try
>> adjusting the regulator (again).
>>
>>  All in all, a very successful weekend.  As usual, more issues to sort
>> out though.
>>
>> Mark S.
>> Lancair ES, N/A P-port 20B
>> Lockhart, TX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:20 PM, <hoursaway1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  Rodger that Doug, I just went through all the paperwork again to make
>>> sure all ducks in a row, then shot one of the ducks & had dinner, a swe=
et
>>> red wine marinade is the secret to good tender duck you know.  David.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: DLOMHEIM@aol.com
>>> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:09:45 PM
>>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Hey are those 304 Stainless staples...(from David)
>>>
>>> Na...gotta be 321...don't you think David?!  I'm still hoping to
>>> read about some flying exploits from this weekend, from someone on the
>>> list!  Surely all our aviators weren't just sitting around watching foo=
tball
>>> all day like us gimpy / DNIF guys!!!!   :)
>>>
>>> Mucho congrats on getting your project to the point of final inspection
>>> prior to first flight!  Take your time, be safe, and enjoy the moment!
>>> Then post some pictures / data of the big event on the list!  :)
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
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<div>Sorry, I didn&#39;t get the transmission or bell housing with my engin=
e.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Kelly Troyer <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keltro@att.net">keltro@att.net</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">
<div></div>
<div>Mark,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0=A0=A0 Forgot to ask you something in the previous post............=
.Was a auto transmission included<br>=A0with either of your 20B engines ?..=
..........My &quot;Cosmo&quot; 13B included the transmission=A0which=A0I</d=
iv>
<div>=A0robbed the bell housing from=A0to provide an extension for my &quot=
;RD1C&quot; like &quot;Bulent&quot; did for his</div>
<div>=A0&quot;COSY&quot; ( see attached photo ).............This required a=
 longer RD1C input shaft of which there</div>
<div>=A0are only two in existance that Tracy agreed make ( against his bett=
er judgement ) as these</div>
<div>.were &quot;One Offs&quot; and pricey................I am trying to fi=
nd another bell housing from a &quot;Cosmo&quot;</div>
<div>=A0as a spare...............I do not think anyone ever has a use for t=
he transmission and they end up</div>
<div>=A0as scrap..............The 93-95 RX7 auto=A0xmission=A0bell housing =
is the same but very few RX7&#39;s</div>
<div>=A0of those years had a automatic xmission..............</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0=A0 If=A0 you or anyone else of the group has or knows where I migh=
t find one of these bell housings </div>
<div>=A0please let me know...............</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0P.S.- The bell Housing bolts to the transmission for those not fami=
lar with it...........</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0Thanks,</div>
<div>=A0=A0=A0=A0</div>
<p>Kelly Troyer<br><strong><font size=3D"4">&quot;DYKE DELTA JD2&quot;</fon=
t> <font size=3D"1">(Eventually)</font></strong></p>
<p>&quot;13B ROTARY&quot;_ Engine<br>&quot;RWS&quot;_RD1C/EC2/EM2<br>&quot;=
MISTRAL&quot;_Backplate/Oil Manifold</p>
<p>&quot;TURBONETICS&quot;_TO4E50 Turbo</p>
<div><br></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><=
br>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, time=
s, serif"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">
<hr size=3D"1">
<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Mark Steitle &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:msteitle@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">msteitle@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Rotary motors in=
 aircraft &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" target=3D"_bla=
nk">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Mon, November 15, 201=
0 10:19:03 AM<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [=
FlyRotary] Re: Hey are those 304 Stainless staples...(from David)<br></font=
><br>

<div>Kelly, </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Well, I would usually settle for somewhere=A0around=A02300 rpm as it=
=A0got too &quot;ratty&quot; below that RPM.=A0 I didn&#39;t=A0mention it i=
n my earlier post, but I had borrowed Bob Darrah&#39;s EC-2 to run while mi=
ne was being re-worked .=A0 Bob&#39;s EC-2 didn&#39;t have the injector snu=
bbers, and it had not been upgraded since 2006.=A0 Tracy was surprised that=
 it ran as well as it did.=A0 However, while not finely tuned, it did run b=
etter than my unit.=A0 </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Yes, I suppose I&#39;ll have to=A0record a ground run, just for the fu=
n of it, and to help us through the long winter months ahead.=A0 Stay tuned=
 (no pun intended).=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Mark<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Kelly Troyer <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keltro@att.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow">keltro@att.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif">
<div></div>
<div>Mark,</div>
<div>=A0=A0=A0 What was your idle MP before the EC2 update ?...............=
Do you have any=A0video with </div>
<div>sounds of that &quot;Leg=A0Chilling&quot; 20B at idle=A0?.............=
....I could use a thrill !!.................&lt;:)</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<p>Kelly Troyer<br><strong><font size=3D"4">&quot;DYKE DELTA JD2&quot;</fon=
t> <font size=3D"1">(Eventually)</font></strong></p>
<p>&quot;13B ROTARY&quot;_ Engine<br>&quot;RWS&quot;_RD1C/EC2/EM2<br>&quot;=
MISTRAL&quot;_Backplate/Oil Manifold</p>
<p>&quot;TURBONETICS&quot;_TO4E50 Turbo</p>
<div><br></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><=
br>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, time=
s, serif"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">
<hr size=3D"1">
<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Ed Anderson &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">=
eanderson@carolina.rr.com</a>&gt;=20
<div><br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Rotary motors =
in aircraft &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"nofollow">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</a>&gt;<br></div><b><spa=
n style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Mon, November 15, 2010 8:39:=
02 AM=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [FlyRotar=
y] Re: Hey are those 304 Stainless staples...(from David)<br></div></div></=
font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">7000 rpm static - WoW!=A0 sounds like not enough =
pitch in the prop to absorb the power - tough situation to be in - NOT!</fo=
nt></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Regarding your 17&quot; manifold pressure at idle=
 - here is a comparison=A0 of port timing information from Paul Yaw</font><=
/div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">You can see that the total open time of the PP is=
 considerable greater than the turbo 13B.=A0 So for a given rpm, I would co=
nclude that since average amount of time =A0the PP intake is open longer to=
 the atmosphere for the same RPM as a turbo 13B, =A0that the intake manifol=
d pressure would be higher for the same rpm.=A0 So what you are seeing just=
 may well be &quot;normal&quot; for a PP port.</font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">But then I don&#39;t own and have no experience w=
ith a PP.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Ed</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div>=A0=20
<p>=A0</p><font face=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#000000">
<h4>Second and Third Generation Turbo 13B</h4>
<p></p></font><font color=3D"#000000"><font face=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#00000=
0">IO 32=B0 ATDC<br>IC 50=B0 ABDC<br>EO 71=B0 BBDC<br>EC 48=B0 ATDC </font>=
<font face=3D"arial" color=3D"#000000"><font color=3D"#000000"><font face=
=3D"arial" color=3D"#000000"><font color=3D"#000000"><font face=3D"arial" c=
olor=3D"#000000"></font><font face=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#7f00ff">
<h4>Mazda Factory Peripheral Port</h4>
<p><font color=3D"#000000">IO 86=B0 BTDC<br>IC 75=B0 ABDC<br>EO 73=B0 BBDC<=
br>EC 65=B0 ATDC </font></p></font></font></font></font></font></font>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=3D"center"><font fac=
e=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#ffffff" size=3D"1"></font>=A0</p>
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e=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#ffffff" size=3D"1"></font>=A0</p>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=3D"center"><font fac=
e=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#ffffff" size=3D"1">A</font></p>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=3D"center"><font fac=
e=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#ffffff" size=3D"1"></font>=A0</p>
<p style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=3D"center"><font fac=
e=3D"Tahoma" color=3D"#ffffff" size=3D"1">ASThis site is meant to give info=
rmation</font></p></div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<div><br></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:msteitle@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href=3D"mailto:msteitle@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"nofollow">Mark Steitle</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 15, 2010 9:09 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net
CTRL + Click to follow link" href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">Rotary motors in aircraft</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [FlyRotary] Re: Hey are those 304 Stainless staples...=
(from David)</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>OK, Doug,=A0I&#39;ll post my weekend update.=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As some of you may know, I have had troubles getting my 20B to run as =
it should.=A0 Problems started about 3 years back when I decided to convert=
 from the stock CAS to the Renesis style CAS.=A0 While I did have limited s=
uccess, it was very sensitive to alignment and air gap of the CAS sensor, a=
nd possibly some other issues that I am not smart enough to figure out.=A0 =
I had trouble getting it to run above 5800 rpm.=A0 </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>About a month ago I decided that enough was enough and I called Tracy =
to say that I wanted my EC-2 converted back to the original configuration.=
=A0=A0I sent it back to Tracy who made the mod and upgraded the software to=
 the latest version.=A0=A0I got it back on Friday and was anxious to see ho=
w it would perform.=A0 I installed the upgraded=A0EC-2 on Saturday.=A0=A0Ye=
a, it started on the third prop blade and ran quite well, although the Mixt=
ure knob was not at &quot;12=A0O&#39;clock&quot;, it ran very smooth.=A0 Fo=
llowing the instructions in the manual, first thing I did was to=A0adjust=
=A0Mode 3=A0to=A0compensate for my larger 60# injectors.=A0 Now it was runn=
ing really well in the upper rpm/map ranges.=A0 A little adjusting of the l=
ower addresses using=A0Mode 1=A0&amp; 9 and=A0it was idling down=A0around 1=
500 rpm.=A0 (Keep in mind that this is a=A0p-port motor.)=A0=A0The exhaust =
tone at low idle is hard to describe...it=A0is enough to send chills up you=
r leg.=A0 ;-0=A0 </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Sunday, after a=A0some more tuning, I got it to where it would=A0almos=
t do=A07000 rpm static.=A0 (Keep in mind that=A0Lockhart, TX is a small cou=
ntry town and this was Sunday morning.=A0 You could probably hear me tuning=
 my engine all over town.)=A0 Confident that it would stay running, I decid=
ed it was time to fly.=A0=A0It climbed out at 6700 rpm as smooth as could b=
e.=A0=A0There was a 5000&#39; ceiling, so I couldn&#39;t climb too high, bu=
t the air=A0was silky smooth.=A0 I flew a couple of patterns, climbing as I=
 circled.=A0 At 3500 msl I headed east and did some tuning with Mode 9 at d=
ifferent MAP settings.=A0 Up and down the scale,=A0fine-tuning each address=
.=A0 She was running like=A0a fine Swiss watch, or to put it another way, l=
ike a rotary should.=A0=A0</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Issues:=A0 </div>
<div>1)=A0 MAP Readings - It appears that I may have a vacuum leak as the=
=A0MAP at idle is reading 17.4&quot;.=A0 Next trip to the airport I will do=
uble-check to make sure that=A0I got both lines plugged into the EC-2 prope=
rly,=A0and check for leaks elsewhere.=A0 It is amazing that it=A0idles as w=
ell as it does under these circumstances.=A0=A0Note that rather than using =
a throttle body,=A0I am using a slide-throttle which is located=A0just a fe=
w inches from the intake ports.=A0 So,=A0the vacuum lines are plugged into =
the unused oil injection ports in the rotor housings (no oil injection pump=
).=A0=A0Could this=A0account for the=A0unusual MAP readings?=A0 I do have a=
 plenum, but since=A0it is open to the atmosphere, I can&#39;t=A0measure MA=
P from there.=A0 I think there are others that use this scheme with success=
.=A0 <br>
</div>
<div>2)=A0Performance - I seem to hit a speed wall at around 2000-2100 prop=
 rpm.=A0=A0I can=A0set=A0the prop=A0higher and=A0get a=A0higher engine rpm,=
 but the=A0higher rpm doesn&#39;t translate into higher speeds.=A0 The spee=
d=A0will gradually start=A0bleeding off.=A0 Not sure why this is happening.=
=A0 Could be tuning, or intake/exhaust design, or=A0just a characteristic o=
f the M/T prop.=A0=A0Or, maybe the engine isn&#39;t making enough horsepowe=
r to push the airframe through the air any faster.=A0 It is annoying though=
, knowing that you have another 1500 rpm on tap but can&#39;t use it.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>3) Alternator - the voltage reading on=A0main alternator is low.=A0 Th=
is is a new alternator which has been converted to external regulator.=A0 I=
&#39;ll try adjusting the regulator (again).=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>
<div>All in all, a very successful weekend.=A0 As usual, more=A0issues to s=
ort out though.=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div></div>
<div>Mark S.</div>
<div>Lancair ES, N/A P-port 20B</div>
<div>Lockhart, TX</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:20 PM, <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hoursaway1@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
nofollow">hoursaway1@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rodger t=
hat Doug, I just went through all the paperwork again to make sure all duck=
s in a row, then shot one of the ducks &amp; had dinner, a sweet red wine m=
arinade is the secret to good tender duck you know.=A0 David.<br>
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motors in aircraft&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net"=
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Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:09:45 PM<br>Subject: [FlyRotary] Hey are =
those 304 Stainless staples...(from David)<br><br><font face=3D"Arial" colo=
r=3D"#000000" size=3D"2">
<div>Na...gotta be 321...don&#39;t you think David?!=A0 I&#39;m still hopin=
g=A0to read=A0about some flying exploits from this weekend, from someone on=
 the list!=A0=A0Surely all our aviators weren&#39;t=A0just sitting around w=
atching football all day like us gimpy / DNIF guys!!!!=A0=A0=A0:)=A0=A0 </d=
iv>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Mucho congrats on getting your project to the point of final inspectio=
n prior to first flight!=A0 Take your time, be safe, and enjoy=A0the moment=
!=A0 Then=A0post some pictures / data of the big event on the list!=A0 :)=
=A0=A0=A0=A0</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Doug</div></font></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>=
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