X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-iw0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4481671 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:44:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.180; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so4585413iwn.25 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 03:43:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yb7gtnnd/NGIgB/pgVjGpQGOyguhHOXBohSXpwXcBaY=; b=tIyfgwZD94UIQ2S14Y/5RNtVEdu3+TzLARNnyX58UJA3uSr5Y3PlgMMQYPsE3TMPOE umMKqHlwe5V6sN4vhEj52f1v2SpiNGqIjI+gtNzN+5vU4IYuJ4jzGjHtl5W10F6m/oJG Tu1rx6s5elfa4WZk8HEdhHVPow4Kc/bFAooIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=R7Tt3tUR7X777zf1Ym3DqklCNq48Jkb6YsjW031DwLVn/nr3z7Fv3lK1al3eKeW0uE w7s/Vutzlqc8HYC5xnpwMRKZBNi1NC1eK2j9O+hY7vt+7/HDNuraiGXQ9SubpPQBB+91 FC285jIUrzjXBv8iMQAAMTHI4AZ81ekzVcf4M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.184.156 with SMTP id ck28mr5119363ibb.168.1285497839446; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 03:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.173.137 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 03:43:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 05:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant flow From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450174aa146dc20491274a6d --0050450174aa146dc20491274a6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Joe, I installed a Renesis WP on my 20B. It is much lighter than the 20B pump and is more compact. If you use a custom inlet/outlet, you could run the lines very close to the engine. Mine are inside the c/l of the slide throttle. A point of clarification... The Renesis WP is part of the Renesis front cover. Using a band saw, I separated the WP housing from the front cover. So, I used the 20B front cover with the Renesis WP. Mark S. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > Someone on the list is using an EWP. I don't remember who at the moment. > Maybe he will chime in later. > Bill B > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of josrph berki > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:51 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant flow > > Bill, > > My installation does not have enough room to use the stock RX7 pump. I > have > a Toyota Corolla pump that can with some modification be mounted on one > side > of the motor. I had to get a Denso alternator to get an alternator to fit > along side the motor. I found a block that permits connectionof hoses to > where the pump used to be. The reason that I am asking all of these > somewhat > strange inqueries is just to get a working scenario. My firewall is 22" > wide and this is a pusher so things get worse as you go aft. Another item > that takes a lotof room is the exhaust augmenter. The engine is also a P > Port. I do not believe I can get the cooling right without some additional > means. The shape of the cowls on a canard pusher is critical to effiency > so > i am trying to stay tight. > > I saw a video on a RX7 discussion group that used the Stewart EWP using the > similar block connection. Don't know if it would work in an AC. > > Joe Berki > Limo EZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Bradburry" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:52 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant flow > > > > What are you trying to do Joe? Does your engine not have a water pump or > > are you trying to accomplish something better? Someone on the list has > an > > electric water pump hooked up. > > > > Bill B > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > > Behalf Of josrph berki > > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:50 AM > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Coolant flow > > > > Thanks for the info on the coolant flow. Currently the Mazda pump pulls > > coolant from the rad and pushes it into the driver's side water passage > per > > the info that you stated. The coolant comes out of the block on the > > passengers' side and goes to the radiator. > > > > Would it be possible to place a stand alone pump inlet at the outlet of > the > > block on the passengers's side and push the water through the radiator > then > > back into the block inlet on the driver's side? The down side would be > that > > the pump would see the hotest coolant. Are there other issues? Thanks > for > > any help. > > > > Joe Berki > > Limo EZ > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --0050450174aa146dc20491274a6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joe,=A0

I installed a Renesis WP on my 20B. =A0It is muc= h lighter than the 20B pump and is more compact. =A0If you use a custom inl= et/outlet, you could run the lines very close to the engine. =A0Mine are in= side the c/l of the slide throttle. =A0

A point of clarification... The Renesis WP is part of t= he Renesis front cover. =A0Using a band saw, I separated the WP housing fro= m the front cover. =A0So, I used the 20B front cover with the Renesis WP. = =A0 =A0

=A0
Mark S.


On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net= > wrote:
Someone on the list is using an EWP. =A0I d= on't remember who at the moment.
Maybe he will chime in later.
Bill B

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of josrph berki
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:51 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant fl= ow

Bill,

My installation does not have enough room to use the stock RX7 pump. =A0I h= ave
a Toyota Corolla pump that can with some modification be mounted on one sid= e
of the motor. =A0I had to get a Denso alternator to get an alternator to fi= t
along side the motor. =A0I found a block that permits connectionof hoses to=
where the pump used to be. The reason that I am asking all of these somewha= t
strange inqueries is just to get a working scenario. =A0My firewall is 22&q= uot;
wide and this is a pusher so things get worse as you go aft. =A0Another ite= m
that takes a lotof room is the exhaust augmenter. =A0The engine is also a P=
Port. I do not believe I can get the cooling right without some additional<= br> means. =A0The shape of the cowls on a canard pusher is critical to effiency= so
i am trying to stay tight.

I saw a video on a RX7 discussion group that used the Stewart EWP using the=
similar block connection. =A0Don't know if it would work in an AC.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Coolant flow


> What are you trying to do Joe? =A0Does your engine not have a water pu= mp or
> are you trying to accomplish something better? =A0Someone on the list = has an
> electric water pump hooked up.
>
> Bill B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> Behalf Of josrph berki
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:50 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Coolant flow
>
> Thanks for the info on the coolant flow. =A0Currently the Mazda pump p= ulls
> coolant from the rad and pushes it into the driver's side water pa= ssage
per
> the info that you stated. =A0The coolant comes out of the block on the=
> passengers' side and goes to the radiator.
>
> Would it be possible to place a stand alone =A0pump inlet at the outle= t of
the
> block on the passengers's side and push the water through the radi= ator
then
> back into the block inlet on the driver's side? =A0The down side w= ould be
that
> the pump would see the hotest coolant. =A0Are there other issues? =A0T= hanks
for
> any help.
>
> Joe Berki
> Limo EZ
>
>
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